Organized Religion is Failing the Gay and Transgender Community

[cbayer]

51. I believe all those things are true about you.

I don't have a lot of "proof" of that, but surmise it from your general demeanor. Your initial statements in this thread were pretty harsh and I challenged them. I am sorry if I made it personal, but, like you, I wish for people to see things my way, lol.

I'm not here to defend specific religious beliefs and have no interest at all in doing so. I am just saying that I respect people's beliefs as much as I respect your lack of them, as long as no one tries to impose it on others or harm others with them.

Sorry if you found my points of discussion lacking, irrelevant, mere stammering and not answering you. I'm doing the best I can and trying to be honest with you. it won't be the first or last time I have fallen short in that area. I do much better when I have the use of vocal inflection and body language, I think.

No one wants to hear that their POV is due to some personal weakness or failing, unless they are speaking with a therapist, imo. To approach people with that particular attitude can be, as I said, a show stopper. And you have pointed out that some of the things I have said about you can do the same thing.

We, including you, need to be comfortable with the possibility that we are wrong. Otherwise, we never learn anything.

I will let you have the last word.

See you around the campfire.