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Warren Stupidity

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71. The facts are: autopsy only definitive test for Parkinson's.

Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:15 PM

Jun 2013

So one explanation for remission is "god did it", without of course any actual data to substantiate that claim, another explanation is: not Parkinson's. The latter explanation fits the known data without introducing any extraordinary claims at all.

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Saint John Paul II real soon! [View all] Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 OP

It is things like this DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #1

"Vatican commission approves second miracle of Pope John Paul II: report" rug Jun 2013 #2

Did you have a point? Or do you just like to emit tautologies? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #3

Yeah. The headline you posted is clownish. rug Jun 2013 #5

I agree what is going on there is totally clownish. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #7

Yes, the there being your headline. rug Jun 2013 #8

We will have to disagree about the meaning of there. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #9

Clownish is less ambiguous. rug Jun 2013 #11

Again I agree completely that the proposed beatification is clownish. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #14

No I don't. rug Jun 2013 #18

So you agree it is a clownish beatification. Then my headline is appropriate. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #19

No, the only thing clownish is your headline. rug Jun 2013 #21

Hmmm. So you believe that there is irrefutable evidence that a dead jp-2 Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #25

If you would read your own links you would know there has been no medical explanation. rug Jun 2013 #26

after interceding for a suffering Costa Rican woman from beyond the grave. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #28

Cure with no scientific explanation. rug Jun 2013 #30

Finally. You do believe that a dead person cured somebody. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #32

That remains to be seen. rug Jun 2013 #34

"insiders say it involves the healing of a Costa Rican woman" edhopper Jun 2013 #45

It's disputable. Dispute it. rug Jun 2013 #47

Burden of proof, rug edhopper Jun 2013 #53

That depends on the claim. rug Jun 2013 #62

I refered to Juan Diego edhopper Jun 2013 #67

The tilma has hardly been determined to be a hoax. rug Jun 2013 #70

Wait, you believe god did this? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #77

Kindly tell me who did. rug Jun 2013 #78

kindly answer the question. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #79

The answer is I don't know. It remains unexplained. rug Jun 2013 #80

Your god is apparently a mediocre artist. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #90

Lol, so stale. rug Jun 2013 #92

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #108

sometimes in his obsession with all things atheist, actual interesting posts about atheism appear. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #109

is that all you have, "pathetic clown"? rug Jun 2013 #110

It has to be PROVIDED before it can be disputed. -eom gcomeau Jun 2013 #85

+1 goldent Jun 2013 #39

This one makes me want to revert to nominalism. okasha Jun 2013 #60

Do you believe that a dead person interceded with a deity to cure somebody of Parkinson's? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #74

As to your question, not enough data yet available. okasha Jun 2013 #107

Fast-tracking for some image control. Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #4

Why do you think it's PR? rug Jun 2013 #6

How many other saints went this quickly? Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #12

Genesius. Patron saint of clowns. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #16

Erhard of Regensburg rug Jun 2013 #20

Santo Subito! rug Jun 2013 #17

What's his three magic tricks? Iggo Jun 2013 #10

The first one was remission from Parkinson's Disease. rug Jun 2013 #13

So you believe that a dead person interceded from dead person world to cure a disease? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #15

I believe there is no cure for Parkinson's. BTW, she is not dead. rug Jun 2013 #22

Wait John Paul II was a woman? And she is not dead? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #23

You really don't follow along very well. rug Jun 2013 #24

Rofl Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #27

eyeroll rug Jun 2013 #29

Do you believe a dead person interceded from beyond the grave? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #31

Do you believe there is a medical explanation for a Parkinson's cure? rug Jun 2013 #33

No obviously god did it. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #35

Ho hum. rug Jun 2013 #36

Where is the proof "god did it"? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #37

Do you believe that this cure was in any way attributable to John Paul II ? Leontius Jun 2013 #40

No, I don't think you can readily draw a line and connect the two. rug Jun 2013 #41

So you've walked away from the clownish canonization of this pope. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #43

No, I've walked away from your clownish posting. rug Jun 2013 #48

funny how your walking away involves multiple sneering snarking posts. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #61

When we inevatibly find the reason this happened Lordquinton Jun 2013 #42

Without a doubt. rug Jun 2013 #49

What miracle? nt Deep13 Jun 2013 #38

Cured some lady's Parkinson's from beyond the grave, I hear. Iggo Jun 2013 #44

LOL, religious logic. trotsky Jun 2013 #46

Science can't explain it, ergo unexplained. rug Jun 2013 #51

Seeing as that there is no evidence substantiating the Parkinson's diagnosis... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #56

Actually there is quite a bit supporting that diagnosis. rug Jun 2013 #63

Initial diagnoses of Parkinson's are based entirely on symptoms... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #68

I can read wikipedia too. rug Jun 2013 #69

The facts are: autopsy only definitive test for Parkinson's. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #71

The fact is: patients are treated for Parkinson's daily. They are not dead. rug Jun 2013 #72

I'm sure you think you've made a point there. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #73

lolwut? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #81

Before you snark produce your medical degree. rug Jun 2013 #82

Before you snark, open an encyclopedia. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #94

That's pretty weak. rug Jun 2013 #97

No, what's weak is your understanding of the practice of medicine Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #99

See # 82. rug Jun 2013 #100

Wow. I am in awe. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #102

No sweat, they grew back. rug Jun 2013 #103

That would be a miracle. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #104

And so we return to the OP. rug Jun 2013 #105

Do your homework. rug Jun 2013 #50

Why is it that amputees are never cured? ret5hd Jun 2013 #52

Exactly! If a miracle were performed to cause a leg or an arm to grow back it would be on You Tube Lint Head Jun 2013 #55

Or, more simply, maybe god just hates amputees. ret5hd Jun 2013 #58

Got me. rug Jun 2013 #64

Agree. But why would God defer to healing an internal disease as opposed to an obvious visible one? Lint Head Jun 2013 #65

It is an excellent question. rug Jun 2013 #66

Thanks! I love to discuss things like this. The Devils Advocate position does bring out some Lint Head Jun 2013 #75

Maybe octopi actually have a real god skepticscott Jun 2013 #95

Don't overestimate God. As we learn from the Book of Judges, He is more or less powerless against dimbear Jun 2013 #98

What you call "convincing evidence" skepticscott Jun 2013 #96

They claim she was cured but they can't even confirm if it was actually Parkinson's disease. SecularMotion Jun 2013 #54

How dare you bring reasonable doubt into this? trotsky Jun 2013 #57

In other words, it is not possible to cure Parkinson's. rug Jun 2013 #83

What a scam of a religion MellowDem Jun 2013 #59

My wife was telling me about this. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #76

Seriously? You didn't just forget the :sarcasm: thingy? Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #84

Seriously. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #86

If he were a Republican politician instead of the former Pope and did what he did Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #88

A very good man should be recognized for being a good man.... MellowDem Jun 2013 #87

That's Entertainment! Iggo Jun 2013 #89

I forget edhopper Jun 2013 #91

Don't forget misogyny and bigotry towards GLBT MellowDem Jun 2013 #93

The best scams last forever.... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #101

That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #106