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Lint Head

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75. Thanks! I love to discuss things like this. The Devils Advocate position does bring out some

Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:42 AM

Jun 2013

interesting ideas and things to ponder. It's nice to exercise the brain as opposed to use it as a nothing but a place holder for some one else to fill with their preconceived notions. My perception is that no one can ever know the mind of God any more than one can know the exact feelings of anyone else and that there really is no answer. Or, could it be the universal mind idea that U.S. Anderson postulated in his book that we are all God so therefore God's mind is our mind. When we try to conceive of something greater than ourselves the understanding becomes great. It's like trying to understand the reasoning behind a distant planet.

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Saint John Paul II real soon! [View all] Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 OP

It is things like this DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #1

"Vatican commission approves second miracle of Pope John Paul II: report" rug Jun 2013 #2

Did you have a point? Or do you just like to emit tautologies? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #3

Yeah. The headline you posted is clownish. rug Jun 2013 #5

I agree what is going on there is totally clownish. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #7

Yes, the there being your headline. rug Jun 2013 #8

We will have to disagree about the meaning of there. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #9

Clownish is less ambiguous. rug Jun 2013 #11

Again I agree completely that the proposed beatification is clownish. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #14

No I don't. rug Jun 2013 #18

So you agree it is a clownish beatification. Then my headline is appropriate. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #19

No, the only thing clownish is your headline. rug Jun 2013 #21

Hmmm. So you believe that there is irrefutable evidence that a dead jp-2 Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #25

If you would read your own links you would know there has been no medical explanation. rug Jun 2013 #26

after interceding for a suffering Costa Rican woman from beyond the grave. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #28

Cure with no scientific explanation. rug Jun 2013 #30

Finally. You do believe that a dead person cured somebody. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #32

That remains to be seen. rug Jun 2013 #34

"insiders say it involves the healing of a Costa Rican woman" edhopper Jun 2013 #45

It's disputable. Dispute it. rug Jun 2013 #47

Burden of proof, rug edhopper Jun 2013 #53

That depends on the claim. rug Jun 2013 #62

I refered to Juan Diego edhopper Jun 2013 #67

The tilma has hardly been determined to be a hoax. rug Jun 2013 #70

Wait, you believe god did this? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #77

Kindly tell me who did. rug Jun 2013 #78

kindly answer the question. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #79

The answer is I don't know. It remains unexplained. rug Jun 2013 #80

Your god is apparently a mediocre artist. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #90

Lol, so stale. rug Jun 2013 #92

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #108

sometimes in his obsession with all things atheist, actual interesting posts about atheism appear. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #109

is that all you have, "pathetic clown"? rug Jun 2013 #110

It has to be PROVIDED before it can be disputed. -eom gcomeau Jun 2013 #85

+1 goldent Jun 2013 #39

This one makes me want to revert to nominalism. okasha Jun 2013 #60

Do you believe that a dead person interceded with a deity to cure somebody of Parkinson's? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #74

As to your question, not enough data yet available. okasha Jun 2013 #107

Fast-tracking for some image control. Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #4

Why do you think it's PR? rug Jun 2013 #6

How many other saints went this quickly? Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #12

Genesius. Patron saint of clowns. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #16

Erhard of Regensburg rug Jun 2013 #20

Santo Subito! rug Jun 2013 #17

What's his three magic tricks? Iggo Jun 2013 #10

The first one was remission from Parkinson's Disease. rug Jun 2013 #13

So you believe that a dead person interceded from dead person world to cure a disease? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #15

I believe there is no cure for Parkinson's. BTW, she is not dead. rug Jun 2013 #22

Wait John Paul II was a woman? And she is not dead? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #23

You really don't follow along very well. rug Jun 2013 #24

Rofl Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #27

eyeroll rug Jun 2013 #29

Do you believe a dead person interceded from beyond the grave? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #31

Do you believe there is a medical explanation for a Parkinson's cure? rug Jun 2013 #33

No obviously god did it. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #35

Ho hum. rug Jun 2013 #36

Where is the proof "god did it"? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #37

Do you believe that this cure was in any way attributable to John Paul II ? Leontius Jun 2013 #40

No, I don't think you can readily draw a line and connect the two. rug Jun 2013 #41

So you've walked away from the clownish canonization of this pope. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #43

No, I've walked away from your clownish posting. rug Jun 2013 #48

funny how your walking away involves multiple sneering snarking posts. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #61

When we inevatibly find the reason this happened Lordquinton Jun 2013 #42

Without a doubt. rug Jun 2013 #49

What miracle? nt Deep13 Jun 2013 #38

Cured some lady's Parkinson's from beyond the grave, I hear. Iggo Jun 2013 #44

LOL, religious logic. trotsky Jun 2013 #46

Science can't explain it, ergo unexplained. rug Jun 2013 #51

Seeing as that there is no evidence substantiating the Parkinson's diagnosis... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #56

Actually there is quite a bit supporting that diagnosis. rug Jun 2013 #63

Initial diagnoses of Parkinson's are based entirely on symptoms... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #68

I can read wikipedia too. rug Jun 2013 #69

The facts are: autopsy only definitive test for Parkinson's. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #71

The fact is: patients are treated for Parkinson's daily. They are not dead. rug Jun 2013 #72

I'm sure you think you've made a point there. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #73

lolwut? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #81

Before you snark produce your medical degree. rug Jun 2013 #82

Before you snark, open an encyclopedia. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #94

That's pretty weak. rug Jun 2013 #97

No, what's weak is your understanding of the practice of medicine Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #99

See # 82. rug Jun 2013 #100

Wow. I am in awe. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #102

No sweat, they grew back. rug Jun 2013 #103

That would be a miracle. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #104

And so we return to the OP. rug Jun 2013 #105

Do your homework. rug Jun 2013 #50

Why is it that amputees are never cured? ret5hd Jun 2013 #52

Exactly! If a miracle were performed to cause a leg or an arm to grow back it would be on You Tube Lint Head Jun 2013 #55

Or, more simply, maybe god just hates amputees. ret5hd Jun 2013 #58

Got me. rug Jun 2013 #64

Agree. But why would God defer to healing an internal disease as opposed to an obvious visible one? Lint Head Jun 2013 #65

It is an excellent question. rug Jun 2013 #66

Thanks! I love to discuss things like this. The Devils Advocate position does bring out some Lint Head Jun 2013 #75

Maybe octopi actually have a real god skepticscott Jun 2013 #95

Don't overestimate God. As we learn from the Book of Judges, He is more or less powerless against dimbear Jun 2013 #98

What you call "convincing evidence" skepticscott Jun 2013 #96

They claim she was cured but they can't even confirm if it was actually Parkinson's disease. SecularMotion Jun 2013 #54

How dare you bring reasonable doubt into this? trotsky Jun 2013 #57

In other words, it is not possible to cure Parkinson's. rug Jun 2013 #83

What a scam of a religion MellowDem Jun 2013 #59

My wife was telling me about this. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #76

Seriously? You didn't just forget the :sarcasm: thingy? Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #84

Seriously. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #86

If he were a Republican politician instead of the former Pope and did what he did Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #88

A very good man should be recognized for being a good man.... MellowDem Jun 2013 #87

That's Entertainment! Iggo Jun 2013 #89

I forget edhopper Jun 2013 #91

Don't forget misogyny and bigotry towards GLBT MellowDem Jun 2013 #93

The best scams last forever.... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #101

That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #106