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Boojatta

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25. I didn't point to something in particular and assert that it's a misconception.
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 08:34 PM
Feb 2012

I simply mentioned the notion of misconceptions. Surely you believe that such a thing as a misconception actually exists.

Anyway, I was simply agreeing with you that human thought is real. If one were thinking in a sloppy way, then one might confuse misconceptions with what is unreal. However, human misconceptions have an effect on the real world, and thus human misconceptions are themselves real. However, the fact that reality includes, among other things, the phenomena of human beings thinking isn't the point of this thread.

The point of this thread is that in conceiving of ideas we don't have complete freedom to bend them to our will. Ideas themselves are connected to each other in ways that form a structure with its own characteristic patterns and textures. To gain access to information about this structure requires patience, devotion, and effort. Patience is required to wait for insights to arrive on their own schedule. Devotion is required to retain insights when they arrive and not, merely because they may seem counter-intuitive, reject them in a knee-jerk manner when they arrive. Effort is required to personally think about and understand the insights that have accumulated over many generations of human civilization.

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Not clear what this has to do with religion. Deep13 Feb 2012 #1
A certain pattern of reasoning is repeatedly used Boojatta Feb 2012 #2
Glad I mentioned it... Deep13 Feb 2012 #14
A couple of things Boojatta Feb 2012 #20
The sentence following "one recent example." Deep13 Feb 2012 #27
Does this have a link or did you, as OP make this up? There are... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #3
"Ideas can be ..." Boojatta Feb 2012 #4
I am impressed. Boojatta Feb 2012 #22
We don't understand enough about human ideas to reach any conclusions about alien ideas. Jim__ Feb 2012 #5
And tama Feb 2012 #7
I'm not sure what point you are making. Jim__ Feb 2012 #10
Very simple tama Feb 2012 #11
It's not so much that neural networks manifest in our experience as ... Jim__ Feb 2012 #12
Funda-Mental tama Feb 2012 #17
Mental representation of what? Boojatta Feb 2012 #8
A mental representation of pi, the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. Jim__ Feb 2012 #9
Before I disagree with anything that you wrote, clarification might be helpful. Boojatta Feb 2012 #18
Can you envision a 4 dimensional sphere? Jim__ Feb 2012 #23
3D and anthropic principle tama Feb 2012 #28
The brain doesn't care pscot Feb 2012 #6
been here done this deacon_sephiroth Feb 2012 #13
Did I post in that thread by Rug? Boojatta Feb 2012 #15
Now the world of imagination is boundless..... yes it is. AlbertCat Feb 2012 #30
Throws Kant's "Critique Of Pure Reason" at OP Odin2005 Feb 2012 #16
Cultural agreements about the nature of reality GliderGuider Feb 2012 #19
The following should be taken at face value, not as a veiled insult. Boojatta Feb 2012 #21
Who decides for me what's a "true conception" and what's a "misconception"? GliderGuider Feb 2012 #24
I didn't point to something in particular and assert that it's a misconception. Boojatta Feb 2012 #25
Do I "surely" believe that such a thing as a misconception actually exists? GliderGuider Feb 2012 #26
Within Australian aboriginal culture for example, "song lines" or "dreamtracks" are accepted as real AlbertCat Feb 2012 #29
"Are they real?" is a culturally determined question. GliderGuider Feb 2012 #31
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