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In reply to the discussion: Nontheists Applaud Supreme Court Decisions on DOMA, Prop 8 [View all]Heddi
(18,312 posts)"Today is a devastating day for traditional marriage and religious freedom,
--Southern Evangelical Seminary President Richard Land
While civil law establishes societal standards of conduct, we must also consider the natural law, moral law and divine revelation, Bishop Wester said. It is from these fonts of wisdom and grace that we Catholics understand that marriage between one man and one woman is a gift to humanity. The blessings of such a marriage cannot be legislated, litigated or changed by civil authorities.
--The Most Reverend John C. Wester, Catholic Bishop of Salt Lake City
We are deeply saddened by todays decision to not only allow but encourage same-sex marriage in our country a country that was founded on biblical principles." We must warn against the coming persecution, the barrage of criticism and the aggressive action of the homosexual agenda to indoctrinate and change the thoughts and convictions of Americans to accept this lifestyle as the new normal, Wildmon said, adding that he was also concerned about the trend to classify statements that have a biblical foundation as hate speech.'
--Tim Wildmon, President, American Family Association
Leadership of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America issued a statement from their New York City headquarters, reiterating the historical position of the Jewish faith, enunciated unequivocally in our Bible, Talmud and Codes, which forbids homosexual relationships and condemns the institutionalization of such relationships as marriages.
By ruling that supporters of Proposition 8 lacked standing to bring this case to court, the Supreme Court has highlighted troubling questions about how our democratic and judicial system operates
---LDS spokesman Michael Otterson.
Catholic Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York and Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco, in a joint statement, called Wednesday a tragic day for marriage and our nation.
Sam Rohrer, president of the Pennsylvania Pastors Network: We are stunned at this decision today to take a 360-degree turn away from the biblical definition of marriage. While this decision is a setback to all we have fought for to protect marriage, we must continue to work to keep marriages and families intact, the way God intended them, and pray for a continued revival of the values upon which this country was founded.
Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput:In striking down Sec. 3 of the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in United States v. Windsor, the Court leaves intact at least for now state constitutional definitions of marriage as an institution restricted to one man and one woman. As Justice Samuel Alito points out in his dissent, no federal right to same-sex marriage exists. The Constitution simply does not establish one. As Catholics we believe marriage needs to be strengthened, not redefined. It is a great gift to men, women, children and society. Affirming the true definition of marriage denies no one his or her basic rights. On the contrary protecting marriage affirms the equal dignity of women and men and safeguards the basic rights of children.
Same-sex unions, whatever legal form they take, cannot create new life. They cannot duplicate the love of a man and woman. But they do copy marriage and family, and in the process, they compete with and diminish the uniquely important status of both. The legal battle about marriage will continue. And the Churchs commitment to promote the authentic meaning of marriage and family will be vigorously pursued.
"They are rejecting the truth. It's a sad day," said Frank Page, president of the Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee. "Christians have to live in the world in which we live. We will adapt and adjust to the realities of the law change. At the same time we will continue to preach, declare, and live the truth that our God does not get involved in swing votes and cultural change when there is a biblical principle at stake."
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But don't pay any attention to them. These are just spokespeople for small local church groups. They have paltry number of members and hold no sway in local, regional, or national politics. Remember, we've been told this countless times by numerous religionists on this board that THE MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS AND CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS are pro-gay, pro-women, anti-hell, etc. etc.
For example, the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints has a membership that numbers a paltry 14.7 million.
The Roman Catholic Church, another local church that many people have never heard of states their membership to be a laughable 1.2 billion members, or 17.5% of the world's population. Hardly even worth noting.
Orthodox Jews have only a few million members, so like the LDS and Catholic Church, they really don't have any meaningful numbers of congregations to make any difference in politics or societal matters.
The American Family Association has hardly any financial backing, as they only own upwards of 200 radio stations in 33 states and have a revenue of about $17 million a year.
The Southern Baptist Convention has a membership of 16 million, and it's the second largest Christian body in the US after the Catholic Church.
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Remember...mainstream religions have NO ISSUES with Gay marriage. Mainstream American Christian Religions have NO ISSUES with Gay Marriage. Say it long enough and you'll start to believe it