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muriel_volestrangler

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21. Maybe you missed this:
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jun 2013
But there's another reason why I don't feel too bad about the baptism, and it brings us to the unlikely hero of this story: the vicar. It was his suggestion that we have our daughter dunked in the font. When I objected that, as a church-dodging sceptic, I wasn't comfortable with the idea, he floored me with his reply. "You don't have to see it as religious if you don't want to," he said. "When I was younger, everyone got baptised; it didn't matter if their families went to church or not. You can just see it as a traditional way of welcoming your daughter into the community." I had my diary out 10 seconds later.


But there is, as the article points out, the "renounce the devil" bit.

In baptism these children begin their journey in faith.
You speak for them today.
Will you care for them,
and help them to take their place
within the life and worship of Christ’s Church?
With the help of God,we will.

In baptism, God calls us out of darkness into his marvellous light.
To follow Christ means dying to sin and rising to new life with him.
Therefore I ask:
Do you reject the devil and all rebellion against God?
I reject them.
Do you renounce the deceit and corruption of evil?
I renounce them.
Do you repent of the sins that separate us from God and neighbour?
I repent of them.
Do you turn to Christ as Saviour?
I turn to Christ.
Do you submit to Christ as Lord?
I submit to Christ.
Do you come to Christ, the way, the truth and the life?
I come to Christ.

http://www.churchofengland.org/media/41165/cibaptismandconf.pdf

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Are Church of England schools tax supported? Jim__ Jun 2013 #1
Yes; they're about one thirds of state schools in England muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #2
It does seem that Barber has some options. Jim__ Jun 2013 #4
The problem is that any hurdle for admission attracts active parents muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #5
That doesn't sound like a problem with religious schools; but rather with sub-par schools. Jim__ Jun 2013 #10
As the article says: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #12
There does seem to be some privileged hypocrisy at work here. rug Jun 2013 #6
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Jim__ Jun 2013 #11
I am making one assumption here. rug Jun 2013 #13
But the baptism was suggested by the vicar muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #16
Taking the suggestion is the hypocrisy. rug Jun 2013 #17
I can see hypocrisy in what he did, but also the vicar muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #18
Sounds to me like the whole system is ridiculous. cbayer Jun 2013 #19
The government likes faith schools, and wants more muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #23
The whole separation issue needs to be addressed, imo. cbayer Jun 2013 #26
The public, on the whole, still support it muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #27
Thanks for all the great info. cbayer Jun 2013 #28
The article doesn't say a word about what the vicar suggested. rug Jun 2013 #20
Maybe you missed this: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #21
I did miss that. rug Jun 2013 #22
I don't think I would muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #24
Thanks for your answer. rug Jun 2013 #25
A clip from the 'Rev.' sitcom, on this subject muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #3
Doesn't he have a public school option? cbayer Jun 2013 #7
I'm still trying to figure out religious cheerleaders in Texas. rug Jun 2013 #8
I understand. Apparently they use the terms public and private to mean very different cbayer Jun 2013 #9
For all our commonality, England remains in many ways an alien place. rug Jun 2013 #14
Obviously, you have not made the acquaintance of my husband. cbayer Jun 2013 #15
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