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1. ABSOLUTELY TRUE!! I am a Christian and I'm not perfect but I believe

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:34 PM

Feb 2012

I'm not threatened by people who question my beliefs. It doesn't hurt me or my faith if others don't feel or believe the same way and I have NEVER believed there was a fundamental conflict between spiritual beliefs and science. I have ALWAYS believed in scientific creationism.

How is what I believe affected by the nonbelief of anybody? The people the Author speaks about regarding disrespect, (the so-called "faithful&quot , are wrong if what they are displaying toward other people who may not agree with their worldview, is nastiness and denigration. That goes against the fundamental command of Christianity and most faiths, if I'm not mistaken. I suspect that alot of what is called faithful are, in actuality, a type of LUDDITES, evidenced by the way they disparage anything resembling science.

Frankly, I don't know any Christians, Muslims or Sikhs, (the majority of people of faith in my area), that hold the suspicion of science the write refers to, thank God. Stupid makes me itch, lol!

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The faithful must learn to respect those who question their beliefs [View all] muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 OP

ABSOLUTELY TRUE!! I am a Christian and I'm not perfect but I believe Ecumenist Feb 2012 #1

No your not. Just because you say you are does not make you one. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #4

Look, I'm not going to argue with you about what I am or what I';m not. You don't know me and Ecumenist Feb 2012 #6

Uh, we can hear you... skepticscott Feb 2012 #9

You do realize that you just made the point everyone has been trying to make with you, right? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #17

You know what? you're pissing in the wind because in the end, I REALLY don't care what you think... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #21

And whoever responded to my comment, you're being ignored just as this one will soon be Ecumenist Feb 2012 #10

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #30

the person self indentifies DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #43

He's an interesting guy and the responses to this are a pretty good read. cbayer Feb 2012 #2

That's not exactly true, cbayer. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #5

Calling you stupid or crazy tama Feb 2012 #77

Thank you for your comment last night and although I'm not sure if you're talking about me, Ecumenist Feb 2012 #7

My advice, not that you asked for it, is to avoid these kinds of confrontations cbayer Feb 2012 #8

Nice to "meet" you, CBayer.... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #13

So where does skepticscott Feb 2012 #11

Agreed. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #22

Interesting piece. I think the realms of science and religion grow increasingly closer. pinto Feb 2012 #3

I completely agree with your statement, my brother is a physicist and the field's Ecumenist Feb 2012 #14

How on earth can you claim quantum physics "talks about the nexus of the spiritual and science"? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #16

I CAN'T STAND DEEPAK CHOPRA, You don't know hat you're talking about. Ecumenist Feb 2012 #20

Just a word of advice skepticscott Feb 2012 #24

Are you saying it's your brother claiming quantum physics is the 'nexus'? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #40

Quantum physics tama Feb 2012 #45

Uh, No skepticscott Feb 2012 #46

"The best tradition of skepticism requires that nonsensical ideas... humblebum Feb 2012 #48

I've read Chopra tama Feb 2012 #50

SOME scientists and skeptics are still caught up in the old paradigm of humblebum Feb 2012 #53

You said it tama Feb 2012 #55

And how did scientists confirm skepticscott Feb 2012 #58

Not the way I see it tama Feb 2012 #60

Try looking at him skepticscott Feb 2012 #57

I think tama Feb 2012 #59

Not remotely an answer skepticscott Feb 2012 #69

And who made you the Inquisition? tama Feb 2012 #72

Then you must know Victor Stenger, from all your decades of study. onager Feb 2012 #68

But...but..."quantum"! darkstar3 Feb 2012 #71

Thanks tama Feb 2012 #75

PS tama Feb 2012 #76

Well, you're the one who claimed "decades" of... onager Feb 2012 #78

It's up to those making claims skepticscott Feb 2012 #79

You car read tama Feb 2012 #80

In other words skepticscott Feb 2012 #81

So tama Feb 2012 #84

The experiments of quantum physics run correctly done by instruments under computer control FarCenter Feb 2012 #47

Consciouss intention tama Feb 2012 #49

The Modern Approach FarCenter Feb 2012 #62

That "presumably couldn't care less" tama Feb 2012 #63

No more than a roulette wheel "cares" skepticscott Feb 2012 #64

Those who build and play tama Feb 2012 #67

And if we were talking about skepticscott Feb 2012 #70

The universe we are talking about tama Feb 2012 #74

Uh, no... skepticscott Feb 2012 #82

Your ideas are no more viable or empirically provable than humblebum Feb 2012 #83

Where tama Feb 2012 #85

The presumption is quite strong FarCenter Feb 2012 #65

Your notion of time tama Feb 2012 #66

The problem I see is that the 'realm' of religion is strewn with conflicting beliefs muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #18

When several prominent atheists call for open disrespect of religion humblebum Feb 2012 #12

Amen..Humblebum... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #15

Speaking for this atheist, I don't want your respect. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #23

I hope you can back up your assertion, but I doubt you can. nt humblebum Feb 2012 #27

You and doubt have a troubled relationship. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #29

As usual, many vague accusations, but no substance. humblebum Feb 2012 #35

Working on ways to explain yourself to others? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #36

Just tell it like I see it. No explanation needed. humblebum Feb 2012 #38

Perfect descriptions of your posts! I agree completely. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #37

If "The faithful must learn to respect those who question their beliefs" then indeed humblebum Feb 2012 #39

Let us know when you post anything to do with reason or logic. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #41

I have no problem with respecting people who 'question the reasoning and logic behind atheism' or LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #88

So what would think of someone skepticscott Feb 2012 #25

I'd say it wasn't the first time and won't be the last.nt humblebum Feb 2012 #26

I'm sure you're right skepticscott Feb 2012 #42

That's where it gets sticky, humblebum EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #28

I have always held that criticism of religion is perfectly alright. humblebum Feb 2012 #32

Actual considerations tama Feb 2012 #51

And we should respect religion, why? mr blur Feb 2012 #31

And, I can only say that you can expect the same in return. Just stop humblebum Feb 2012 #33

There's one for substantiation. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #34

Eye for an eye? tama Feb 2012 #52

No one is calling for revenge, nor is it implied. We are talking about respect humblebum Feb 2012 #54

You are only responsible tama Feb 2012 #56

That same guy also advocated that if one sees an evil happening to someone else humblebum Feb 2012 #61

Confronting Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #73

Hey, you're back! laconicsax Feb 2012 #44

And when several prominent religious people attack secularism as a danger to society... LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #87

Darwinian Faithful Respect James I. Nienhuis Feb 2012 #86