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Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:23 AM

Feb 2012

Stenger states his "completely materialistic and reductionistic" belief system quite eloquently, and csicop.org spreads the word faithfully.

So, what kind of matter/math is this common sense? How do you sense it?

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The faithful must learn to respect those who question their beliefs [View all] muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 OP

ABSOLUTELY TRUE!! I am a Christian and I'm not perfect but I believe Ecumenist Feb 2012 #1

No your not. Just because you say you are does not make you one. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #4

Look, I'm not going to argue with you about what I am or what I';m not. You don't know me and Ecumenist Feb 2012 #6

Uh, we can hear you... skepticscott Feb 2012 #9

You do realize that you just made the point everyone has been trying to make with you, right? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #17

You know what? you're pissing in the wind because in the end, I REALLY don't care what you think... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #21

And whoever responded to my comment, you're being ignored just as this one will soon be Ecumenist Feb 2012 #10

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #30

the person self indentifies DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #43

He's an interesting guy and the responses to this are a pretty good read. cbayer Feb 2012 #2

That's not exactly true, cbayer. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #5

Calling you stupid or crazy tama Feb 2012 #77

Thank you for your comment last night and although I'm not sure if you're talking about me, Ecumenist Feb 2012 #7

My advice, not that you asked for it, is to avoid these kinds of confrontations cbayer Feb 2012 #8

Nice to "meet" you, CBayer.... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #13

So where does skepticscott Feb 2012 #11

Agreed. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #22

Interesting piece. I think the realms of science and religion grow increasingly closer. pinto Feb 2012 #3

I completely agree with your statement, my brother is a physicist and the field's Ecumenist Feb 2012 #14

How on earth can you claim quantum physics "talks about the nexus of the spiritual and science"? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #16

I CAN'T STAND DEEPAK CHOPRA, You don't know hat you're talking about. Ecumenist Feb 2012 #20

Just a word of advice skepticscott Feb 2012 #24

Are you saying it's your brother claiming quantum physics is the 'nexus'? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #40

Quantum physics tama Feb 2012 #45

Uh, No skepticscott Feb 2012 #46

"The best tradition of skepticism requires that nonsensical ideas... humblebum Feb 2012 #48

I've read Chopra tama Feb 2012 #50

SOME scientists and skeptics are still caught up in the old paradigm of humblebum Feb 2012 #53

You said it tama Feb 2012 #55

And how did scientists confirm skepticscott Feb 2012 #58

Not the way I see it tama Feb 2012 #60

Try looking at him skepticscott Feb 2012 #57

I think tama Feb 2012 #59

Not remotely an answer skepticscott Feb 2012 #69

And who made you the Inquisition? tama Feb 2012 #72

Then you must know Victor Stenger, from all your decades of study. onager Feb 2012 #68

But...but..."quantum"! darkstar3 Feb 2012 #71

Thanks tama Feb 2012 #75

PS tama Feb 2012 #76

Well, you're the one who claimed "decades" of... onager Feb 2012 #78

It's up to those making claims skepticscott Feb 2012 #79

You car read tama Feb 2012 #80

In other words skepticscott Feb 2012 #81

So tama Feb 2012 #84

The experiments of quantum physics run correctly done by instruments under computer control FarCenter Feb 2012 #47

Consciouss intention tama Feb 2012 #49

The Modern Approach FarCenter Feb 2012 #62

That "presumably couldn't care less" tama Feb 2012 #63

No more than a roulette wheel "cares" skepticscott Feb 2012 #64

Those who build and play tama Feb 2012 #67

And if we were talking about skepticscott Feb 2012 #70

The universe we are talking about tama Feb 2012 #74

Uh, no... skepticscott Feb 2012 #82

Your ideas are no more viable or empirically provable than humblebum Feb 2012 #83

Where tama Feb 2012 #85

The presumption is quite strong FarCenter Feb 2012 #65

Your notion of time tama Feb 2012 #66

The problem I see is that the 'realm' of religion is strewn with conflicting beliefs muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #18

When several prominent atheists call for open disrespect of religion humblebum Feb 2012 #12

Amen..Humblebum... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #15

Speaking for this atheist, I don't want your respect. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #23

I hope you can back up your assertion, but I doubt you can. nt humblebum Feb 2012 #27

You and doubt have a troubled relationship. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #29

As usual, many vague accusations, but no substance. humblebum Feb 2012 #35

Working on ways to explain yourself to others? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #36

Just tell it like I see it. No explanation needed. humblebum Feb 2012 #38

Perfect descriptions of your posts! I agree completely. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #37

If "The faithful must learn to respect those who question their beliefs" then indeed humblebum Feb 2012 #39

Let us know when you post anything to do with reason or logic. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #41

I have no problem with respecting people who 'question the reasoning and logic behind atheism' or LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #88

So what would think of someone skepticscott Feb 2012 #25

I'd say it wasn't the first time and won't be the last.nt humblebum Feb 2012 #26

I'm sure you're right skepticscott Feb 2012 #42

That's where it gets sticky, humblebum EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #28

I have always held that criticism of religion is perfectly alright. humblebum Feb 2012 #32

Actual considerations tama Feb 2012 #51

And we should respect religion, why? mr blur Feb 2012 #31

And, I can only say that you can expect the same in return. Just stop humblebum Feb 2012 #33

There's one for substantiation. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #34

Eye for an eye? tama Feb 2012 #52

No one is calling for revenge, nor is it implied. We are talking about respect humblebum Feb 2012 #54

You are only responsible tama Feb 2012 #56

That same guy also advocated that if one sees an evil happening to someone else humblebum Feb 2012 #61

Confronting Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #73

Hey, you're back! laconicsax Feb 2012 #44

And when several prominent religious people attack secularism as a danger to society... LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #87

Darwinian Faithful Respect James I. Nienhuis Feb 2012 #86