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4. It's bigger than the Nobel remark, as the writer points out in the article.

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Atheism is maturing, and it will leave Richard Dawkins behind [View all] cbayer Aug 2013 OP

Ho-hum, another silly article by someone who wants to organize non believers into a church Warpy Aug 2013 #1

Martin Robbins want to organize non-believers into a church? cbayer Aug 2013 #3

There is no 'leadership', nor 'leadership positions' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #19

Of course there are leaders and leadership positions. cbayer Aug 2013 #22

It's laughable what a formula it's become. trotsky Aug 2013 #10

What you said. +1000 Th1onein Aug 2013 #35

Dawkins is, "desperately grasping for attention and relevance in a maturing community?" immoderate Aug 2013 #2

It's bigger than the Nobel remark, as the writer points out in the article. cbayer Aug 2013 #4

No he doesn't. No other statement of Dawkins is cited. immoderate Aug 2013 #7

I guess if you can find a way to support this, it must work for you. cbayer Aug 2013 #9

Religions suppress science. I think you know this. immoderate Aug 2013 #13

Some do, some don't. cbayer Aug 2013 #14

Dawkins thinks that Islam is driven by superstition. immoderate Aug 2013 #18

Seems to be a new standard apologist tactic. trotsky Aug 2013 #21

If it's a hit piece, it's a hit piece by a fellow atheist. cbayer Aug 2013 #25

"You are apparently in one camp, and I am in the other." trotsky Aug 2013 #27

Any growing social movement will find reasons to splinter after a bunch of years. They all do. immoderate Aug 2013 #29

Are you sure about Dawkins' being unwilling to suppress anyone's rights? okasha Aug 2013 #30

Simple. Not everything abusive is criminal. immoderate Aug 2013 #32

Let's be clear. okasha Aug 2013 #34

Sounds like you're all primed for a round of word games. So let's see how clear I can get. immoderate Aug 2013 #38

Nope, I'm not the one who's equivocating. okasha Aug 2013 #65

You assert that a commission of "abuse," even a definition, is criminal. That requires equivocation. immoderate Aug 2013 #68

Are you sure you are quoting Dawkins accurately? trotsky Aug 2013 #33

I don't know about the state where you live, okasha Aug 2013 #66

Great, so you agree with Dawkins Lordquinton Aug 2013 #69

Agree, and there is some splintering going on. cbayer Aug 2013 #41

Dawkins may believe that theism is detrimental to human development. immoderate Aug 2013 #43

Well, you may think that, but I don't think you'll find any data to back that up. cbayer Aug 2013 #44

No data? trotsky Aug 2013 #79

He's responding in kind to the people he's set up against Lordquinton Aug 2013 #37

Really? What anti-atheists would they be? cbayer Aug 2013 #42

There is a big difference between the two Lordquinton Aug 2013 #54

Sorry, but anyone who puts themselves out there and says that most of the world cbayer Aug 2013 #55

And if you can't counter the message, you counter the messanger Lordquinton Aug 2013 #70

You keep defending him, if that works for you. It's becoming clearer that you have cbayer Aug 2013 #73

Again, can't actually counter the message with substance Lordquinton Aug 2013 #76

History clearly indicates the latter. trotsky Aug 2013 #80

There is no context with twitter. cbayer Aug 2013 #82

Dawkins is a loudmouth, but it's fascinating that... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #5

" Besides, on what planet are Nobel Prizes the best metric for achievement or progress? " Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #6

Using that reasoning, then women have inferior records cbayer Aug 2013 #8

Yes and when we ask why we have some good answers. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #12

Very good, Warren Stupidity! okasha Aug 2013 #15

Lets try Islamic culture crippled development. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #23

Let's try European colonialism okasha Aug 2013 #26

No really it didn't. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #39

And what about institutionalized religious bigotry? cbayer Aug 2013 #16

In which institution does one find the religious bigotry you are attempting to identify? trotsky Aug 2013 #20

Institutionalized religious bigotry stopped Islamic countries developing their universities? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #24

christianity left Christ behind about 2000 years ago rurallib Aug 2013 #11

Straight from the ethnocentic comfort of British academia. rug Aug 2013 #17

I guess he would like to be like Peter, considered a founder of something. CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #28

Peter founded a superstition. Dawkins made actual scientific discoveries. immoderate Aug 2013 #31

He didn't make any actual scientific discoveries about god. cbayer Aug 2013 #40

What? There are zero scientific discoveries "about gods". Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #45

Exactly. cbayer Aug 2013 #46

Nor did he formulate a philosophy. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #47

Oh, but he did. cbayer Aug 2013 #48

No. Atheism predates Dawkins by quite a few years. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #49

He's an anti-theist. cbayer Aug 2013 #50

I'd respond if there was something there to respond to. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #51

Bull. Not all atheists believe that and you don't speak for all atheists. cbayer Aug 2013 #57

A delusional belief is not necessarily a mental illness. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #58

Yes, Warren, it is. It is by definition a fixed belief that is firmly held cbayer Aug 2013 #59

So a person who believes that Friday 13 Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #63

The Friday the 13th thing is a superstition for most that believe it. cbayer Aug 2013 #64

What you're calling "delusional" okasha Aug 2013 #67

No, the "logical implication" is not LTX Aug 2013 #62

"when those [beliefs]do not infringe on the rights of others" Lordquinton Aug 2013 #71

There are also places where you could be killed for being a christian cbayer Aug 2013 #74

Does that invalidate anything else I've said? Lordquinton Aug 2013 #75

No, it doesn't invalidate what you have said at all. cbayer Aug 2013 #81

If you're curious, what really sunk their efforts was infighting, tribalism, dimbear Aug 2013 #36

Atheists come in all shapes and sizes LynnTTT Aug 2013 #52

yes we are..... madrchsod Aug 2013 #53

Completely agree. Welcome to the Religion Group. cbayer Aug 2013 #56

Such truth. bravenak Aug 2013 #77

This controversy was exacerbated LTX Aug 2013 #60

And then claims that it was taken out of context, as if there were any actual context when cbayer Aug 2013 #61

Actually there may be a context eilen Aug 2013 #78

I didn't know that (not a tweeter), but I didn't see any links it what has been reposted. cbayer Aug 2013 #83

I thought the main purpose of twitter was to send message like goldent Aug 2013 #72