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cbayer

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57. Bull. Not all atheists believe that and you don't speak for all atheists.

Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:34 AM

Aug 2013

The only thing atheists have in common is that they do not believe in a god or gods.

Only a small, but distinct, group believe that everyone that doesn't see it the same way as them suffers from a mental illness.

It's not implied by anything, but it has been widely promoted by a few prominent atheists, who, imo, have created hostility where there was no need for it.

I have never claimed to believe or not believe in gods. I don't know if there are any gods and I don't care if there are any gods.

And I don't think that either those that believe (based on no factual evidence) and those that don't believe (based on no factual evidence) suffer from mental illness based on that alone.

Your assumptions about what most atheists believe are wrong and not based on any evidence whatsoever. Most atheists also place themselves in the agnostic category and do not label those who see the world different as mentally ill.

But you do.

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Atheism is maturing, and it will leave Richard Dawkins behind [View all] cbayer Aug 2013 OP

Ho-hum, another silly article by someone who wants to organize non believers into a church Warpy Aug 2013 #1

Martin Robbins want to organize non-believers into a church? cbayer Aug 2013 #3

There is no 'leadership', nor 'leadership positions' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #19

Of course there are leaders and leadership positions. cbayer Aug 2013 #22

It's laughable what a formula it's become. trotsky Aug 2013 #10

What you said. +1000 Th1onein Aug 2013 #35

Dawkins is, "desperately grasping for attention and relevance in a maturing community?" immoderate Aug 2013 #2

It's bigger than the Nobel remark, as the writer points out in the article. cbayer Aug 2013 #4

No he doesn't. No other statement of Dawkins is cited. immoderate Aug 2013 #7

I guess if you can find a way to support this, it must work for you. cbayer Aug 2013 #9

Religions suppress science. I think you know this. immoderate Aug 2013 #13

Some do, some don't. cbayer Aug 2013 #14

Dawkins thinks that Islam is driven by superstition. immoderate Aug 2013 #18

Seems to be a new standard apologist tactic. trotsky Aug 2013 #21

If it's a hit piece, it's a hit piece by a fellow atheist. cbayer Aug 2013 #25

"You are apparently in one camp, and I am in the other." trotsky Aug 2013 #27

Any growing social movement will find reasons to splinter after a bunch of years. They all do. immoderate Aug 2013 #29

Are you sure about Dawkins' being unwilling to suppress anyone's rights? okasha Aug 2013 #30

Simple. Not everything abusive is criminal. immoderate Aug 2013 #32

Let's be clear. okasha Aug 2013 #34

Sounds like you're all primed for a round of word games. So let's see how clear I can get. immoderate Aug 2013 #38

Nope, I'm not the one who's equivocating. okasha Aug 2013 #65

You assert that a commission of "abuse," even a definition, is criminal. That requires equivocation. immoderate Aug 2013 #68

Are you sure you are quoting Dawkins accurately? trotsky Aug 2013 #33

I don't know about the state where you live, okasha Aug 2013 #66

Great, so you agree with Dawkins Lordquinton Aug 2013 #69

Agree, and there is some splintering going on. cbayer Aug 2013 #41

Dawkins may believe that theism is detrimental to human development. immoderate Aug 2013 #43

Well, you may think that, but I don't think you'll find any data to back that up. cbayer Aug 2013 #44

No data? trotsky Aug 2013 #79

He's responding in kind to the people he's set up against Lordquinton Aug 2013 #37

Really? What anti-atheists would they be? cbayer Aug 2013 #42

There is a big difference between the two Lordquinton Aug 2013 #54

Sorry, but anyone who puts themselves out there and says that most of the world cbayer Aug 2013 #55

And if you can't counter the message, you counter the messanger Lordquinton Aug 2013 #70

You keep defending him, if that works for you. It's becoming clearer that you have cbayer Aug 2013 #73

Again, can't actually counter the message with substance Lordquinton Aug 2013 #76

History clearly indicates the latter. trotsky Aug 2013 #80

There is no context with twitter. cbayer Aug 2013 #82

Dawkins is a loudmouth, but it's fascinating that... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #5

" Besides, on what planet are Nobel Prizes the best metric for achievement or progress? " Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #6

Using that reasoning, then women have inferior records cbayer Aug 2013 #8

Yes and when we ask why we have some good answers. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #12

Very good, Warren Stupidity! okasha Aug 2013 #15

Lets try Islamic culture crippled development. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #23

Let's try European colonialism okasha Aug 2013 #26

No really it didn't. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #39

And what about institutionalized religious bigotry? cbayer Aug 2013 #16

In which institution does one find the religious bigotry you are attempting to identify? trotsky Aug 2013 #20

Institutionalized religious bigotry stopped Islamic countries developing their universities? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #24

christianity left Christ behind about 2000 years ago rurallib Aug 2013 #11

Straight from the ethnocentic comfort of British academia. rug Aug 2013 #17

I guess he would like to be like Peter, considered a founder of something. CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #28

Peter founded a superstition. Dawkins made actual scientific discoveries. immoderate Aug 2013 #31

He didn't make any actual scientific discoveries about god. cbayer Aug 2013 #40

What? There are zero scientific discoveries "about gods". Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #45

Exactly. cbayer Aug 2013 #46

Nor did he formulate a philosophy. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #47

Oh, but he did. cbayer Aug 2013 #48

No. Atheism predates Dawkins by quite a few years. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #49

He's an anti-theist. cbayer Aug 2013 #50

I'd respond if there was something there to respond to. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #51

Bull. Not all atheists believe that and you don't speak for all atheists. cbayer Aug 2013 #57

A delusional belief is not necessarily a mental illness. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #58

Yes, Warren, it is. It is by definition a fixed belief that is firmly held cbayer Aug 2013 #59

So a person who believes that Friday 13 Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #63

The Friday the 13th thing is a superstition for most that believe it. cbayer Aug 2013 #64

What you're calling "delusional" okasha Aug 2013 #67

No, the "logical implication" is not LTX Aug 2013 #62

"when those [beliefs]do not infringe on the rights of others" Lordquinton Aug 2013 #71

There are also places where you could be killed for being a christian cbayer Aug 2013 #74

Does that invalidate anything else I've said? Lordquinton Aug 2013 #75

No, it doesn't invalidate what you have said at all. cbayer Aug 2013 #81

If you're curious, what really sunk their efforts was infighting, tribalism, dimbear Aug 2013 #36

Atheists come in all shapes and sizes LynnTTT Aug 2013 #52

yes we are..... madrchsod Aug 2013 #53

Completely agree. Welcome to the Religion Group. cbayer Aug 2013 #56

Such truth. bravenak Aug 2013 #77

This controversy was exacerbated LTX Aug 2013 #60

And then claims that it was taken out of context, as if there were any actual context when cbayer Aug 2013 #61

Actually there may be a context eilen Aug 2013 #78

I didn't know that (not a tweeter), but I didn't see any links it what has been reposted. cbayer Aug 2013 #83

I thought the main purpose of twitter was to send message like goldent Aug 2013 #72