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Peacetrain

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84. Of course I answered your question

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:07 PM

Aug 2013

and I answered it simply.. I do not communicate in one or two word posts about thoughtful subjects.. Nor do I ask people to "explain" their views in one or two word posts. NOR do I ask another soul to embrace my faith journey or belief system. But I will try again here

"Did others experience him or think they met him and put their fingers where the nails went in.. I have not a clue.

The disciples had a huge investment into Jesus, and his death would have been a heartbreaking experience for them.

The mind can will you to see things.

Personal story on this one.. The day my Dad was buried, I thought I saw him at the window. I just missed him so much, I wanted to see him one more time, and my brain let me have that experience. "

Jesus is with me now as all those who have gone before are with me. If you are looking for a physical body to touch, can't help you there. We are back to the theory of thermodynamics an E=MC2

We are all a part of that massive energy grid.

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Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2013 OP

Dupe. rug Aug 2013 #1

"Dupe" in more ways than one. okasha Aug 2013 #14

In the matter of 10 days.. there have been 2 separate articles Peacetrain Aug 2013 #2

these results make no such claims.... mike_c Aug 2013 #3

The study doesn't break it down into evangelical xtian conservatives. rug Aug 2013 #6

that bit was sarcasm.... mike_c Aug 2013 #7

Ah, I thought it was an academic point. rug Aug 2013 #8

To be fair, people who believe in the supernatural are denying reality and science.. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #4

Interesting... I guess if you belive Peacetrain Aug 2013 #13

Considering that a majority of the humans on the planet believe in the supernatural... cleanhippie Aug 2013 #32

ROFL.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #39

Do you even read what you write? Not believing something is belief sytem? ROFL, indeed. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #67

Everything involves a belief system.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #68

Yet we ARE discussing RELGIOUS belief, not belief systems in general. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #72

No one is attacking you Peacetrain Aug 2013 #73

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #74

Well good afternoon Peacetrain Aug 2013 #75

As "practicing Christian", do you believe that Jesus was killed, rose from the dead and toured the cleanhippie Aug 2013 #80

As a practicing Christian.. yes I believe Jesus was crucified Peacetrain Aug 2013 #81

You didn't answer my question. Do you believe Jesus rose from the dead? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #82

Of course I answered your question Peacetrain Aug 2013 #84

You are flat-out refusing to answer the question. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #87

Does it matter to you? Peacetrain Aug 2013 #88

What utter rubbish. Walking in lockstep denying science and reality, indeed. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #89

My views . just not what you want to hear or read Peacetrain Aug 2013 #90

You steadfastly refuse to answer whether you believe if Jesus rose from the dead or not. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #91

Let us try this again Peacetrain Aug 2013 #92

Lets not. You have now moved into Deepak Chopra-esqe word salad cleanhippie Aug 2013 #94

Oh you are not going to give up on me now.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #96

You left out quantum chakras and spiritual consciousness duality. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #97

ROFL.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #98

IQ is overrated. ntt rrneck Aug 2013 #5

This has been posted and is being discussed. cbayer Aug 2013 #9

they can only confidently show ... between intelligence and religiosity among American Protestants. Jim__ Aug 2013 #10

I think that the main reason is that both are related to education LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #11

This is also consistent with the studies regarding degree of poverty and religiosity. cbayer Aug 2013 #12

I think it's not so much a matter of religion being less 'valuable' to the better-off... LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #15

They may also rely more on hope and the belief that things will cbayer Aug 2013 #16

Slaves adopt their masters' religion in the hope of being mistreated less. dimbear Aug 2013 #17

Not necessarily true. cbayer Aug 2013 #18

Slaves who obeyed their true feelings would have sought out a religion which condemned slavery, dimbear Aug 2013 #22

And perhaps they did just that, though they would have had to do it cbayer Aug 2013 #23

It depends on which passages are focused on. kwassa Aug 2013 #60

Good point, but with the book Philemon in the canon, the principle is clear: put up with it. dimbear Aug 2013 #64

Philemon is clear about what? The letter is ambiguous. kwassa Aug 2013 #65

Paul sends back a slave who misbehaved, asks that his master treat him well. dimbear Aug 2013 #69

I have a feeling that the better off you are economically okasha Aug 2013 #19

Interesting point. These were all aimed at the 1%, weren't they? cbayer Aug 2013 #20

And they were pretty much the same kind of 1% okasha Aug 2013 #63

Are you actually suggesting that atheists reject religion... trotsky Aug 2013 #21

You should not... rexcat Aug 2013 #47

It's just odd that some folks think it's OK for them to engage in the behavior... trotsky Aug 2013 #58

No, I didn't. okasha Aug 2013 #61

Oh, your post was perfectly clear, okasha. trotsky Aug 2013 #62

The heartbreak... rexcat Aug 2013 #66

Gee I guess I feel so stupid now. LOL! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #24

Don't feel stupid. The study doesn't really show that. cbayer Aug 2013 #25

Well I never was a good test taker. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #26

Is that a surprise?? edite Aug 2013 #27

My theory is that the religious give up on problem solving. xfundy Aug 2013 #28

I disagree. I know plenty of religious people and we use the brains God gave us to solve problems. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #29

Yes, me too. xfundy Aug 2013 #30

So if one is an atheist... rexcat Aug 2013 #48

I never said that nor meant for it to be taken that way. You are reading things into what I said. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #49

Undeniably... rexcat Aug 2013 #50

I have had a busy night here tonight so I was on. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #51

I have been reading a lot of posts... rexcat Aug 2013 #52

Thank you. Sorry I got snappy. As I said it was a busy night here. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #53

Looking at your post count... rexcat Aug 2013 #54

LOL I am on Mirt now. I am also a LBN, GD,Lounge, Religion and NY room host. I end up posting a bit. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #55

This is the poster that got removed. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #56

You continue with the false assumptions and generalizations xfundy. What gives? cbayer Aug 2013 #31

Once again, the accusation xfundy Aug 2013 #33

I make that accusation because you don't distinguish cbayer Aug 2013 #34

My experience in terms of religion xfundy Aug 2013 #35

Has you experience in terms of religion been pretty much limited cbayer Aug 2013 #36

Actually, I believe xfundy Aug 2013 #37

Most? cbayer Aug 2013 #38

"if people were making the same kinds of blanket statements about atheists" xfundy Aug 2013 #41

And you don't like it very much, I would suppose. cbayer Aug 2013 #42

And this is the genius aspect of the repig meme. xfundy Aug 2013 #43

I agree with you. cbayer Aug 2013 #44

Namaste. xfundy Aug 2013 #46

Addendum xfundy Aug 2013 #45

Umpire is good. Honestly, I really just want to see like minded people cbayer Aug 2013 #59

Copying and Pasting from the GD version of this LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #40

I am not sure about "intelligence" per se. Intelligence is a variable. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #57

I conclude smart religious people and dumb irreligious people are less likely to participate struggle4progress Aug 2013 #70

Except the studies weren't just about IQ muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #71

Well, my comment was a joke. But there are serious problems with "measures" of "intelligence" struggle4progress Aug 2013 #76

I don't think this is a valid scientific question. Peace Patriot Aug 2013 #77

"This is a DUMB study, for dumb people to have dumb arguments about. " cbayer Aug 2013 #78

+1 okasha Aug 2013 #79

I can't rec your post high enough! kentauros Aug 2013 #83

my post about this on another form.... Evoman Aug 2013 #85

Agree with what you say here. cbayer Aug 2013 #86

Not surprising at all. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #93

A fine example of a poorly formulated opinion. rug Aug 2013 #95

To be specific, okasha Aug 2013 #99

I strive for tact. rug Aug 2013 #100

To quote Mordred okasha Aug 2013 #103

Figures you would be so rude to say such a thing. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #101

So, then can I conclude that you are religious? cbayer Aug 2013 #102

Oh please. rrneck Aug 2013 #104