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Peacetrain

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92. Let us try this again

Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:17 PM

Aug 2013

Jesus NEVER ceased to exist. Yes he was crucified. But the energy that was Jesus, continued on. I cannot give you this simple answer you seem to want.

Could he have been physically moved from the grave, well sure. Could he have physically recovered from his wounds and met Paul on the road to Damascus? The one thing we can be sure of is the energy that was in him, continued on.

The best that I can give you, is it does not matter. If a person is raised in a fundamentalist household and the only way they can comprehend the never ending presence is to have it rise from the dead, well if that is what works for them, and that is fine. It just does not matter

ch you are approaching this in such a fundamentalist fashion. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It goes on. It can move to mass and back.

Science proves God, and God proves Science.

By the way, I have really been enjoying our conversations. I am getting ready for a visit from some relatives, so if you happen by this evening and I don't get back to you right away, I will be sure to check in, in the AM.

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Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2013 OP

Dupe. rug Aug 2013 #1

"Dupe" in more ways than one. okasha Aug 2013 #14

In the matter of 10 days.. there have been 2 separate articles Peacetrain Aug 2013 #2

these results make no such claims.... mike_c Aug 2013 #3

The study doesn't break it down into evangelical xtian conservatives. rug Aug 2013 #6

that bit was sarcasm.... mike_c Aug 2013 #7

Ah, I thought it was an academic point. rug Aug 2013 #8

To be fair, people who believe in the supernatural are denying reality and science.. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #4

Interesting... I guess if you belive Peacetrain Aug 2013 #13

Considering that a majority of the humans on the planet believe in the supernatural... cleanhippie Aug 2013 #32

ROFL.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #39

Do you even read what you write? Not believing something is belief sytem? ROFL, indeed. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #67

Everything involves a belief system.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #68

Yet we ARE discussing RELGIOUS belief, not belief systems in general. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #72

No one is attacking you Peacetrain Aug 2013 #73

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #74

Well good afternoon Peacetrain Aug 2013 #75

As "practicing Christian", do you believe that Jesus was killed, rose from the dead and toured the cleanhippie Aug 2013 #80

As a practicing Christian.. yes I believe Jesus was crucified Peacetrain Aug 2013 #81

You didn't answer my question. Do you believe Jesus rose from the dead? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #82

Of course I answered your question Peacetrain Aug 2013 #84

You are flat-out refusing to answer the question. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #87

Does it matter to you? Peacetrain Aug 2013 #88

What utter rubbish. Walking in lockstep denying science and reality, indeed. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #89

My views . just not what you want to hear or read Peacetrain Aug 2013 #90

You steadfastly refuse to answer whether you believe if Jesus rose from the dead or not. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #91

Let us try this again Peacetrain Aug 2013 #92

Lets not. You have now moved into Deepak Chopra-esqe word salad cleanhippie Aug 2013 #94

Oh you are not going to give up on me now.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #96

You left out quantum chakras and spiritual consciousness duality. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #97

ROFL.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #98

IQ is overrated. ntt rrneck Aug 2013 #5

This has been posted and is being discussed. cbayer Aug 2013 #9

they can only confidently show ... between intelligence and religiosity among American Protestants. Jim__ Aug 2013 #10

I think that the main reason is that both are related to education LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #11

This is also consistent with the studies regarding degree of poverty and religiosity. cbayer Aug 2013 #12

I think it's not so much a matter of religion being less 'valuable' to the better-off... LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #15

They may also rely more on hope and the belief that things will cbayer Aug 2013 #16

Slaves adopt their masters' religion in the hope of being mistreated less. dimbear Aug 2013 #17

Not necessarily true. cbayer Aug 2013 #18

Slaves who obeyed their true feelings would have sought out a religion which condemned slavery, dimbear Aug 2013 #22

And perhaps they did just that, though they would have had to do it cbayer Aug 2013 #23

It depends on which passages are focused on. kwassa Aug 2013 #60

Good point, but with the book Philemon in the canon, the principle is clear: put up with it. dimbear Aug 2013 #64

Philemon is clear about what? The letter is ambiguous. kwassa Aug 2013 #65

Paul sends back a slave who misbehaved, asks that his master treat him well. dimbear Aug 2013 #69

I have a feeling that the better off you are economically okasha Aug 2013 #19

Interesting point. These were all aimed at the 1%, weren't they? cbayer Aug 2013 #20

And they were pretty much the same kind of 1% okasha Aug 2013 #63

Are you actually suggesting that atheists reject religion... trotsky Aug 2013 #21

You should not... rexcat Aug 2013 #47

It's just odd that some folks think it's OK for them to engage in the behavior... trotsky Aug 2013 #58

No, I didn't. okasha Aug 2013 #61

Oh, your post was perfectly clear, okasha. trotsky Aug 2013 #62

The heartbreak... rexcat Aug 2013 #66

Gee I guess I feel so stupid now. LOL! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #24

Don't feel stupid. The study doesn't really show that. cbayer Aug 2013 #25

Well I never was a good test taker. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #26

Is that a surprise?? edite Aug 2013 #27

My theory is that the religious give up on problem solving. xfundy Aug 2013 #28

I disagree. I know plenty of religious people and we use the brains God gave us to solve problems. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #29

Yes, me too. xfundy Aug 2013 #30

So if one is an atheist... rexcat Aug 2013 #48

I never said that nor meant for it to be taken that way. You are reading things into what I said. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #49

Undeniably... rexcat Aug 2013 #50

I have had a busy night here tonight so I was on. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #51

I have been reading a lot of posts... rexcat Aug 2013 #52

Thank you. Sorry I got snappy. As I said it was a busy night here. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #53

Looking at your post count... rexcat Aug 2013 #54

LOL I am on Mirt now. I am also a LBN, GD,Lounge, Religion and NY room host. I end up posting a bit. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #55

This is the poster that got removed. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #56

You continue with the false assumptions and generalizations xfundy. What gives? cbayer Aug 2013 #31

Once again, the accusation xfundy Aug 2013 #33

I make that accusation because you don't distinguish cbayer Aug 2013 #34

My experience in terms of religion xfundy Aug 2013 #35

Has you experience in terms of religion been pretty much limited cbayer Aug 2013 #36

Actually, I believe xfundy Aug 2013 #37

Most? cbayer Aug 2013 #38

"if people were making the same kinds of blanket statements about atheists" xfundy Aug 2013 #41

And you don't like it very much, I would suppose. cbayer Aug 2013 #42

And this is the genius aspect of the repig meme. xfundy Aug 2013 #43

I agree with you. cbayer Aug 2013 #44

Namaste. xfundy Aug 2013 #46

Addendum xfundy Aug 2013 #45

Umpire is good. Honestly, I really just want to see like minded people cbayer Aug 2013 #59

Copying and Pasting from the GD version of this LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #40

I am not sure about "intelligence" per se. Intelligence is a variable. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #57

I conclude smart religious people and dumb irreligious people are less likely to participate struggle4progress Aug 2013 #70

Except the studies weren't just about IQ muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #71

Well, my comment was a joke. But there are serious problems with "measures" of "intelligence" struggle4progress Aug 2013 #76

I don't think this is a valid scientific question. Peace Patriot Aug 2013 #77

"This is a DUMB study, for dumb people to have dumb arguments about. " cbayer Aug 2013 #78

+1 okasha Aug 2013 #79

I can't rec your post high enough! kentauros Aug 2013 #83

my post about this on another form.... Evoman Aug 2013 #85

Agree with what you say here. cbayer Aug 2013 #86

Not surprising at all. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #93

A fine example of a poorly formulated opinion. rug Aug 2013 #95

To be specific, okasha Aug 2013 #99

I strive for tact. rug Aug 2013 #100

To quote Mordred okasha Aug 2013 #103

Figures you would be so rude to say such a thing. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #101

So, then can I conclude that you are religious? cbayer Aug 2013 #102

Oh please. rrneck Aug 2013 #104