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AtheistCrusader

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16. I don't see why it's offensive.

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 01:52 PM

Aug 2013

Is it offensive when religious people talk about converting people and expanding their churches?

But yes, that is the anti-theist side of Dawkins, which Tyson does not share.

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Some Thoughts on Richard Dawkins' Terrible Tweet [View all] cbayer Aug 2013 OP

Oh, the false equivalency of race and religion strikes again. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #1

then Dawkins should have known better DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #28

Being an ass is a matter of opinion. He is factually right about what he says. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #38

about what DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #39

If I take your point correctly, LTX Aug 2013 #66

Dawkins comment is a lament, not a boast. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #2

Are you addressing that to me or the author of this piece? cbayer Aug 2013 #3

Both, because you called that statement bigoted in the other thread. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #4

What did you think about what this author says on the subject? cbayer Aug 2013 #6

I think the author is massively off-base and willfully misinterpreting what Dawkins' said. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #8

He agrees that the statement is factual. cbayer Aug 2013 #9

Just click on the progress bar on the video at 38 minutes. You don't have to watch the whole thing. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #11

I see what you are saying here, but NDT's analysis of this is so much more thoughtful cbayer Aug 2013 #12

Dawkins has elaborated in a couple essays on this matter. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #13

Yes, I saw that he crawfished after the fact. cbayer Aug 2013 #14

BTW, the t-shirt Dawkins is wearing in the link is really offensive. cbayer Aug 2013 #15

I don't see why it's offensive. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #16

If I am trying to make a point that what I said was not bigoted, cbayer Aug 2013 #17

Dawkins position has long been (and this is true of all memetics) that religion is a socially transm AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #21

The argument that one side does it so the other should do it as well is weak. cbayer Aug 2013 #24

Memes propagate just like diseases. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #26

Why doesn't it matter if I find it offensive? cbayer Aug 2013 #29

That is correct, they are all memes. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #32

Wow. Stephen Fry. Now there is an authority on, well, everything. cbayer Aug 2013 #33

I leave 'offense' up to the individual. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #36

Feel free and make sure you wear it around anyone you care about who is a believer. cbayer Aug 2013 #40

Fortunately, none of the people I love are. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #41

No one you love is a believer? cbayer Aug 2013 #42

Religion isn't a race or gender identity, it's an idea. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #44

I completely reject that notion. Do you choose to be an atheist or is cbayer Aug 2013 #46

I'm an atheist by default. I CHOOSE to be anti-theist becuse it impacts my life on a daily basis AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #47

But race and gender identity okasha Aug 2013 #59

Are you equally offended edhopper Aug 2013 #20

I don't like t-shirts in general that tell other people what they should think cbayer Aug 2013 #23

That shirt doesn't tell people 'what to believe'. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #48

I don't really have a problem. The t-shirt says that religion is a disease, cbayer Aug 2013 #49

I don't see how that shirt tells anyone 'what to think' any more than a 'jesus is lord' shirt which AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #50

The ketch is always there for me. cbayer Aug 2013 #51

Must be my browser. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #52

Good grief, Tom Sawyer. okasha Aug 2013 #19

It's not that he "refuses to see the good that religion has done", but rather that he doesn't agree eomer Aug 2013 #22

No. I don't think being religious makes you more likely to do good things, but cbayer Aug 2013 #25

He does see both sides of it. But he makes some further points. eomer Aug 2013 #43

You've got to admit that's some pretty faint praise, particularly cbayer Aug 2013 #45

I've heard... eomer Aug 2013 #54

I've never heard that, but perhaps he would have considered it cbayer Aug 2013 #55

No, it's certainly not rhetorical. eomer Aug 2013 #56

Coretta Scott King disagreed with you about how she and MLK chose their religion. eomer Aug 2013 #57

Fascinating. I had not heard this story before and thank you for sharing it. cbayer Aug 2013 #58

It does say a bit about the depth and breadth of his religious beliefs. eomer Aug 2013 #62

So your argument is that okasha Aug 2013 #64

Probably didn't explain myself very well, need to put a finer point on it. eomer Aug 2013 #67

I think we are on the same page. I think people can be inherently good. cbayer Aug 2013 #65

interesting analyisis, AC Skittles Aug 2013 #53

It was still stupid DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #35

Look at the stats for the last 50 years then. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #61

Excellent article - thanks for posting it! Jim__ Aug 2013 #5

You are welcome. I really like this writer and thought his take on this cbayer Aug 2013 #7

civilizations and religions come and go. madrchsod Aug 2013 #10

Or all the world's women. okasha Aug 2013 #18

So who would have guessed that Dawkins is a bigot Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #27

WTF is a biggot? AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #30

It's a typo. Lighten up. cbayer Aug 2013 #34

Fixed. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #37

Oh, I think he is aware. It's just the yardstick that he prefers to use because it is most cbayer Aug 2013 #31

Actually Islamic culture comes up short compared to china Japan and India too. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #60

Keep it up, cbayer. trotsky Aug 2013 #63