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longship

(40,416 posts)
6. I don't give a fuck what believers believe.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 08:29 PM
Sep 2013

I don't care what other people think.

But I very much care how they act and as an ancillary, but related concern, what they say. That is what defines what evil there is in religion to me.

I am more than offended when the airwaves are filled with charlatans like we see who are obviously after nothing more than to fleece their flock. We know of many of them, some who have faded into ignominious history. Peter Popoff, exposed by James Randi on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show. (Yup! He's back. Doing his schtick.) Robert Tilton. Jimmy Bakker. (He's back, too. Hawking bread along with Jesus, of all things.) The Crouch's. (A more despicable pair I couldn't imagine.) Benny Hinn. (Milking his flock for every penny.) Ted Haggard. (I wonder if he's still not gay...)

I measure the believing community by their actions, not their beliefs. What can one say when the only people who seem to want to talk about the outright charlatans are those who do not believe.

Actions and words are important. The extent to which the so-called liberal religionists do not step up on this is the extent to which they may be perceived as part of the problem. I don't want to believe that Sam Harris may be right, that the liberal religious give cover to the conservatives and the outright shysters. But I am beginning to think that they haven't stepped up.

As Jesus might have said, "Isn't time to clean up your own house?"

Then, one can take on the non-believer heathens. Good luck with that.



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Disagree n/t Duer 157099 Sep 2013 #1
You believe atheists should disrespect believers? rug Sep 2013 #3
It depends Duer 157099 Sep 2013 #5
You should. MintyWriter Sep 2013 #2
Welcome to DU. rug Sep 2013 #4
I don't give a fuck what believers believe. longship Sep 2013 #6
Everyone should respect everyone. LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #7
Should I respect the "god hates fags" people? Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #10
Good Point LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #14
um, somebody should have shot hitler. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #8
Are you talking to me? The OP is not about DU. rug Sep 2013 #9
Make that names. okasha Sep 2013 #11
He still can't count to 100. rug Sep 2013 #12
I wonder if I am on his list. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #16
You got here 4 days ago and you have names already? hrmjustin Sep 2013 #15
The cited author's atheist pal needs to focus his rage better. Hone in on the real problems, dimbear Sep 2013 #13
Respect is earned. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #17
I say it's the opposite. Disrespect is earned. rug Sep 2013 #28
Happens all the time. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #31
An assumption based on fact is evidence. rug Sep 2013 #32
So explain the measurable distrust of atheists that are only hypothetical and not yet even met by AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #33
Propaganda, demonizing a minority, division of opposition, testing loyalty, etc. rug Sep 2013 #34
Fair point. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #35
It's a good article and I see more atheists who are moving away from their prejudices cbayer Sep 2013 #19
I don't think making up an entity, and telling others to use your creation as a moral basis muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #20
That is true only if you belive religion offers nothing but a basis to ruin lives. rug Sep 2013 #21
I'm going by the argument that the article put forth muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #22
You're correct. I read "run" as "ruin". rug Sep 2013 #27
It's one thing to respect someone who genuinely believes, quite another to respect pretenders. DrewFlorida Sep 2013 #23
99.9%? That must fall within the *statistic* that 99% of statistics posted cbayer Sep 2013 #24
FFS, cbayer. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #25
Respect is earned. No matter who you are, you will get the benefit of the doubt, PDJane Sep 2013 #26
See #28. rug Sep 2013 #29
See benefit of the doubt. PDJane Sep 2013 #30
“There is nothing more effective at pickling the state of the soul ... than a rankling prejudice.” Jim__ Sep 2013 #36
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