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LostOne4Ever

(9,755 posts)
7. Everyone should respect everyone.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 09:13 PM
Sep 2013

Respect is not a thing that only shows up among believers or non-believer. There are believers who are very disrespectful and rude and they should be condemned as well. And, both groups have people who pride themselves on being respectful.


[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:3px 3px 3px #999999;"]My intention is to help my new friend get past his rankling prejudice, and I hope against hope that this may inspire other intolerant atheists to do likewise.

Why just atheists? Why not everyone? There are disrespectful people from every group. I greatly support being polite and civil but unfairly focusing on one group is not the way to do so and it only furthers a stereotype against us.

I get wanting to separate oneself from those of one's own group expressing views we disagree with, but if you want to be taken seriously you need an even handed approach. The way in which the author goes about it not only furthers a specific stereotypes against us, but reinforces them in that the people who want to promote such bigotry against us will now go "Look they even admit it is a problem among atheists themselves."

Imagine someone from any other minority generalizing their own group and criticizing them over a stereotype. This is the same thing.

I would rather the author had talked about respect in a universal way and held up himself and his friend as examples rather than chide all of us when many of us strive to be polite and respectful.

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Disagree n/t Duer 157099 Sep 2013 #1
You believe atheists should disrespect believers? rug Sep 2013 #3
It depends Duer 157099 Sep 2013 #5
You should. MintyWriter Sep 2013 #2
Welcome to DU. rug Sep 2013 #4
I don't give a fuck what believers believe. longship Sep 2013 #6
Everyone should respect everyone. LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #7
Should I respect the "god hates fags" people? Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #10
Good Point LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #14
um, somebody should have shot hitler. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #8
Are you talking to me? The OP is not about DU. rug Sep 2013 #9
Make that names. okasha Sep 2013 #11
He still can't count to 100. rug Sep 2013 #12
I wonder if I am on his list. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #16
You got here 4 days ago and you have names already? hrmjustin Sep 2013 #15
The cited author's atheist pal needs to focus his rage better. Hone in on the real problems, dimbear Sep 2013 #13
Respect is earned. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #17
I say it's the opposite. Disrespect is earned. rug Sep 2013 #28
Happens all the time. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #31
An assumption based on fact is evidence. rug Sep 2013 #32
So explain the measurable distrust of atheists that are only hypothetical and not yet even met by AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #33
Propaganda, demonizing a minority, division of opposition, testing loyalty, etc. rug Sep 2013 #34
Fair point. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #35
It's a good article and I see more atheists who are moving away from their prejudices cbayer Sep 2013 #19
I don't think making up an entity, and telling others to use your creation as a moral basis muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #20
That is true only if you belive religion offers nothing but a basis to ruin lives. rug Sep 2013 #21
I'm going by the argument that the article put forth muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #22
You're correct. I read "run" as "ruin". rug Sep 2013 #27
It's one thing to respect someone who genuinely believes, quite another to respect pretenders. DrewFlorida Sep 2013 #23
99.9%? That must fall within the *statistic* that 99% of statistics posted cbayer Sep 2013 #24
FFS, cbayer. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #25
Respect is earned. No matter who you are, you will get the benefit of the doubt, PDJane Sep 2013 #26
See #28. rug Sep 2013 #29
See benefit of the doubt. PDJane Sep 2013 #30
“There is nothing more effective at pickling the state of the soul ... than a rankling prejudice.” Jim__ Sep 2013 #36
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