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9. It's bigotry.

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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:51 PM

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I'm having some trouble coming up with a name for this that's not "bigotry". [View all] 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 OP

Dicketry? arcane1 Sep 2013 #1

Wonder if the chorus in here skepticscott Sep 2013 #2

Pope Francis is just being a very typical believer Warpy Sep 2013 #3

Surprisingly (snicker) I've seen many of the same arguments pronounced right dang here Heddi Sep 2013 #4

Where to start on this. longship Sep 2013 #5

I found that word for you. xfundy Sep 2013 #6

There are no Atheists who can Politicalboi Sep 2013 #7

sounds like the powers that be have reeled him back in rurallib Sep 2013 #8

It's bigotry. cbayer Sep 2013 #9

Compare and contrast to what you claim as "bigotry" skepticscott Sep 2013 #11

Rug disagrees with you completely skepticscott Sep 2013 #34

If the bullet points she extracted were in fact the encyclical, it would be bigotry. rug Sep 2013 #10

Right on cue skepticscott Sep 2013 #12

Did you read it or are you just reflexively responding? rug Sep 2013 #13

In other words skepticscott Sep 2013 #15

so applying this statement conversely Lordquinton Sep 2013 #16

His post is worth bookmarking skepticscott Sep 2013 #17

Do that. Everybody needs a hobby. rug Sep 2013 #30

Do you know what bigotry is? rug Sep 2013 #29

By that logic skepticscott Sep 2013 #32

You may want to edit that. rug Sep 2013 #35

For a while there, I thought the encyclical ... DreamGypsy Sep 2013 #14

I didn't find words such as "atheism" or "atheist" or "unbeliever" anywhere in Lumen Fidei struggle4progress Sep 2013 #18

Atheist or nonbeliever = someone without faith. trotsky Sep 2013 #19

The phrase "without faith" occurs only once in the document in section 36: the sentence struggle4progress Sep 2013 #20

Knock it off. trotsky Sep 2013 #22

The article linked by the OP misrepresents the document. struggle4progress Sep 2013 #27

So you disagree with cbayer. trotsky Sep 2013 #28

Do you think participants in this group should be forbidden to disagree with cbayer? struggle4progress Sep 2013 #36

Under no circumstances is anyone permitted to disagree with me!! cbayer Sep 2013 #39

eek! trotsky and cbayer are plotting a putsch in the religion group! struggle4progress Sep 2013 #44

I had to look that up. Now I have a new word! cbayer Sep 2013 #45

I'd love it if you could actually behave like an adult and support your statement. trotsky Sep 2013 #46

And you don't have a page full skepticscott Sep 2013 #33

Do you think participants in this group should be forbidden to use google? struggle4progress Sep 2013 #37

Silly and irrelevant question skepticscott Sep 2013 #38

I thought you wanted to discuss "Google search results" struggle4progress Sep 2013 #40

Take trotsky's advice in 22 skepticscott Sep 2013 #41

You mention google quite regularly: do you have some religious or conscientious objection struggle4progress Sep 2013 #42

Lol! rug Sep 2013 #43

You do know it is obvious to those reading this Goblinmonger Sep 2013 #47

I'm not seeing anything offensive in the letter. It's fine with me if struggle4progress Sep 2013 #50

And yet what miniscule effort have you even attempted to explain yourself? trotsky Sep 2013 #52

(1) Which of my posts in this thread motivated your claim I'm "going crazy on Google"? struggle4progress Sep 2013 #54

(2) Do you have a religious or conscientious objection to the use of Google? struggle4progress Sep 2013 #55

Thanks for demonstrating without a doubt... trotsky Sep 2013 #57

Don't waste your time on this one skepticscott Sep 2013 #56

I gave him multiple chances to act like an adult. trotsky Sep 2013 #58

I count four right now skepticscott Sep 2013 #59

I count at least five. rug Sep 2013 #60

............. Goblinmonger Sep 2013 #69

Maybe six. rug Sep 2013 #70

The problem is that he believes that living with faith is better than living without faith el_bryanto Sep 2013 #21

Of course he does - that's his job. trotsky Sep 2013 #23

Well yes - on both sides of the coin el_bryanto Sep 2013 #24

I think what it comes down to is this: trotsky Sep 2013 #25

Nods - el_bryanto Sep 2013 #26

You're right, it's a stretch. rug Sep 2013 #31

Except when it says, when writing about faith, Goblinmonger Sep 2013 #48

What text exactly are you purporting to discuss? struggle4progress Sep 2013 #49

Here's an example: eomer Sep 2013 #51

Horrors! You disagree with something the Pope said! So he must be a bigot! struggle4progress Sep 2013 #53

I disagree with the Pope's statement that as an atheist I am inferior. eomer Sep 2013 #61

The Pope nowhere said atheists are inferior. He spoke of the importance of love struggle4progress Sep 2013 #62

He's speaking about the importance of faith. eomer Sep 2013 #63

"If it were true --- as conceited shrewdness, proud of not being deceived, thinks --- that one struggle4progress Sep 2013 #64

So do you say then that faith is not a requirement for trustworthy love? eomer Sep 2013 #65

You are, of course, free to hold whatever opinion you like, concerning the importance of "faith" struggle4progress Sep 2013 #66

I think it is bigotry if it is a claim that people of no faith are inferior. eomer Sep 2013 #67

I don't think the pope is saying faith is a *requirement* - he said it enhances human capability muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #68

He does in a number of places come right out and say that faith is essential. eomer Sep 2013 #71

You read this skepticscott Sep 2013 #72

So Francesco and you do not entirely share a common worldview: he thinks something is required struggle4progress Sep 2013 #73

No, actually, I haven't said this is bigotry. But I do think it's ironically a lack of human unity. eomer Sep 2013 #74

Nice spin on bigotry skepticscott Sep 2013 #75