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52. Not sure why I need faith. What we call "reality" seems enough, to me. Did you see that

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Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:41 AM

Feb 2012

scalable model of the universe someone posted somewhere around here earlier?

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You don't have a soul... [View all] mia Feb 2012 OP

Yes. Very nice. bluerum Feb 2012 #1

Yet another of Lewis' writings in which I do not see the wisdom. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #2

Perhaps your assumptions about what a soul might be are more narrow than Lewis's? patrice Feb 2012 #4

Or perhaps Lewis uses heavy handed and unimaginative metaphors. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #6

I don't think the op is claiming wisdom. Just said he liked the quote. bluerum Feb 2012 #8

Lewis is often touted as one of the great apologetics. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #10

Wow. That's a lot to read into that short simple quote. bluerum Feb 2012 #18

I read nothing INTO the quote. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #25

It's also possible to perceive pretention in rejecting that possibility. patrice Feb 2012 #21

Always the accusation of blindness. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #26

At minimum, it is clear that I referred to a "possibility" so you tell me why you refer to that as patrice Feb 2012 #31

Accuse others of pretention. Witness the self-fulfilling prophecy. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #32

You may have noticed that #8 made that accusation and I asked a question about that accusation. nt patrice Feb 2012 #34

More passive aggression. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #36

Said an inhabitant of the infinitely regressive mirror world. Speaking of tautologies, btw... nt patrice Feb 2012 #39

It WAS a hypothetical analogy. If the shoe doesn't fit ... So, why do you insist on wearing it? patrice Feb 2012 #33

Oh spare me your passive aggressive denials. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #35

Deflection. Avoidance. You need to tell DU -ers they are not permitted to challenge you. patrice Feb 2012 #40

I parried your passive aggressive thrust. I'm really not interested in continuing down that line. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #43

No thank you. I'm bored with this now. Time to sleep. nt patrice Feb 2012 #46

Good night. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #47

Share your wisdom in imaginative metaphors. mia Feb 2012 #9

Perhaps, if you are God, you can assume those things absolutely. If you're not, there's patrice Feb 2012 #20

There is no assumption in the fact that the statement is a tautology. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #23

Whether it is a tautology or not depends upon how one relates to that which is referred patrice Feb 2012 #28

No, it really doesn't. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #30

We don't disagree about the definiton of "tautology". We disagree about what is referred to by patrice Feb 2012 #37

So you're still stuck in "The Cave". darkstar3 Feb 2012 #38

Such assumed superiority! You do think you are a god, don't you. Admit it. nt patrice Feb 2012 #42

So now because you refuse to accept objective reality, darkstar3 Feb 2012 #45

My goodness, you found someone else to accuse of this behaviour too? GliderGuider Feb 2012 #54

Yes, I did. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #55

Objectivism and subjectivism tama Feb 2012 #63

Post-modernist! GliderGuider Feb 2012 #67

Seems a simple observation. So easily overlooked and ignored in our daily lives. bluerum Feb 2012 #7

And how does one "observe" a soul? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #11

The observation is that one is a 'soul'. bluerum Feb 2012 #16

I think you and I disagree on what constitutes an observation. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #17

Rational empiricism has NOTHING to say about that which is not observed, other than patrice Feb 2012 #24

And yet the idea that I adhere to something called "rational empiricism" is an assumption. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #27

My assumption is based upon the value that you apparently place on observation. nt patrice Feb 2012 #29

If "soul" is not an object of observation tama Feb 2012 #64

my spirit lives in my body. when the body dies the soul/spirit leaves and roguevalley Feb 2012 #12

I am so sorry for the loss of your puppy. cbayer Feb 2012 #13

Thank you, cbayer. It is the only thing that makes this bearable. My dachshunds live roguevalley Feb 2012 #59

I've been looking at this post for hours. I have a beautiful pup myself. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #48

Thank you, Darkstar3. I hug you back too. What a strange thing to come into a roguevalley Feb 2012 #58

I am so sorry for your loss Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #65

It does seem that I mostly just look, touch and speak out of it. leveymg Feb 2012 #3

That's fine hyphenate Feb 2012 #5

May your chakras enlighten your kundalini's third eye, kemosabe. dmallind Feb 2012 #14

Our senses known and to be known help us understand nature composed of energy and matter. We know jody Feb 2012 #15

I don't think the preternatural is necessary to soul. patrice Feb 2012 #22

Isn't that the basis of faith, a belief that does not require energy and matter and is not a cause jody Feb 2012 #51

Not sure why I need faith. What we call "reality" seems enough, to me. Did you see that patrice Feb 2012 #52

Missed the model but I'll search for it. Thanks. nt jody Feb 2012 #53

Here it is. En- joy! patrice Feb 2012 #56

I think agent46 Feb 2012 #78

Speaking of dogma: I think you don't KNOW crap about what I think. Q.Proof of YOUR hidden ideology? patrice Feb 2012 #79

Let yr soul light shine for all to see n/t agent46 Feb 2012 #80

VERY nice. My own belief parallels that statement. I love that sentiment.nt Ecumenist Feb 2012 #19

That may be the only thing I've read by Lewis that makes sense. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #41

Agreed. nt patrice Feb 2012 #44

I still haven't read anything by him that makes sense. onager Feb 2012 #49

He's just offering a little encouragement. rrneck Feb 2012 #50

I tried reading that book. ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #61

OK. What is a soul? nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #57

If you ever get a coherent answer to that, can you let me know? laconicsax Feb 2012 #62

Apparently, a soul is the sound of crickets chirping. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #69

I thought that was "God." laconicsax Feb 2012 #70

that thing that asked what it is tiny elvis Feb 2012 #72

I have worked in a lot of group homes. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #74

This statement is one of the many reasons I dislike Lewis as a thinker. ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #60

The closest formulation of this idea that I could agree with... Silent3 Feb 2012 #66

Clive Wearing deadinsider Feb 2012 #68

Makes sense if by "soul" you say mind/consciousness/self. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #71

Nonsensical platitude AlbertCat Feb 2012 #73

Wouldn't "nonsensical" be sufficient? "Platitude" seems like overkill. nt jody Feb 2012 #75

"Platitude" seems like overkill AlbertCat Feb 2012 #76

Makes sense to me, I concede. nt jody Feb 2012 #77