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In reply to the discussion: "Persecuted" Atheists in America Need a New Perspective [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,259 posts)38. I don't think the FT article said they are 'persecuted'
The 2 pargraphs with mentions of the word in it are:
From the outside, keeping your views to yourself may not seem such a problem. But this is only if you think that its easy to live hiding who you really are from almost everyone around you, even close family. Take Matt Elder, who lives in Festus, Missouri (pop. 11,602). When I met him in a downtown St Louis diner, he came across as a cheerful, friendly guy, not someone living under a kind of persecution. Theyre not going to cut me off or throw me to the wolves, he says of his Christian family and in-laws. But if Elder is typical of the trying-to-keep-their-heads-down atheists scattered around the Bible Belt, then his story shows that none of them has it easy.
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Data backs up anecdote. A now famous University of Minnesota study concluded that Americans ranked atheists lower than Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in sharing their vision of American society. Nearly 48 per cent said they would disapprove if my child wanted to marry a member of this group (many more than the next most unpopular category, Muslims, at 33.5 per cent). No wonder atheist groups talk of modelling their campaigns on the civil rights, gay and womens liberation movements. It is not that they claim their persecution is on the same level but that they suggest the way forward requires a combination of organising and consciousness-raising. We want people to realise that some of their best friends are atheists, some of their doctors, and lawyers and fire chiefs and all the rest of them are atheists, says Dennett.
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Data backs up anecdote. A now famous University of Minnesota study concluded that Americans ranked atheists lower than Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in sharing their vision of American society. Nearly 48 per cent said they would disapprove if my child wanted to marry a member of this group (many more than the next most unpopular category, Muslims, at 33.5 per cent). No wonder atheist groups talk of modelling their campaigns on the civil rights, gay and womens liberation movements. It is not that they claim their persecution is on the same level but that they suggest the way forward requires a combination of organising and consciousness-raising. We want people to realise that some of their best friends are atheists, some of their doctors, and lawyers and fire chiefs and all the rest of them are atheists, says Dennett.
I think the article was very clear that the discrimination does not reach the levels of people at risk of violence.
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they, why should atheists worry when a president says they should be stripped of citizenship.
unblock
Feb 2012
#1
And of course blacks and women have valid complaints about lack of representation
dmallind
Feb 2012
#6
Well if they didn't open their mouths no one would know they were an aetheist.
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#3
Damn uppity atheists belong in the back of the bus, eh? Thanks for proving the article false.
dmallind
Feb 2012
#7
just because the faithful are delusional, a lack of faith must also be delusional?
ChairmanAgnostic
Feb 2012
#11
Atheists should ignore discrimination by Christians because Christians are murdered somewhere else?
immoderate
Feb 2012
#8
many believers feel offended or threatened at the mere notion that god might not exist
unblock
Feb 2012
#14
Type here in DU does not make it fact. I have never been asked my religious or lack of
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#51
Oh, well, since everything was hunky-dory in your town it must be true everywhere.
darkstar3
Feb 2012
#81
What you absolutely refuse to see is that this is about far more than the workplace.
darkstar3
Feb 2012
#84
So you're saying that agnosticism is a middle ground between theism and atheism?
darkstar3
Feb 2012
#73
But knowledge is a different question than belief. No matter how superior you feel in your position,
darkstar3
Feb 2012
#80
A personal attack, no matter how clever or thinly veiled, means you cannot support your argument
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#98
Why is it that the most vehement haters can never tell their detractors apart?
darkstar3
Feb 2012
#101
Probably because they are blinded by their rage and desire to be "right" all the time.
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#102
The next time my kids come home crying because others were spewing their Christ-based vile at them,
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#36
If the religious kids come home crying because others were spewing their religion
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#49
One of my communication teachers was teaching about projecting motives this week.
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#67
The most famous atheist in America, Madelyn Murray O'Hair, was murdered. Just a few years ago
Brettongarcia
Feb 2012
#60
It took 6 years for an apathetic Austin police dept. to really look for and find her (1995-2001).
Brettongarcia
Feb 2012
#70
Fuck this guy, just because atheists aren't killed on a daily basis doesn't mean we have it easy...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2012
#71