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struggle4progress

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37. It's not my OP. And my #13 was a response to #12, which sought to blame the entire matter

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 02:58 PM

Oct 2013

on the Roman Catholic church: in #13, to which you responded, I merely pointed out that Winans was not Catholic, and the mother whose child Winans refused to baptize didn't seem to be Catholic either

Although I'm not Catholic myself, I object to Catholic-bashing in this forum. That's not the same as thinking it would be in any way worthwhile to indulge your so-called "interest" in Christianity by discussing with you the "question" you asked in your #33: namely, Why would someone think their baby needs this ritual so badly that they would wander from church to church?

IMO your claim to want "discussion" is nothing but bottom-dragging in hopes you'll get some reaction that somehow gratifies you

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Pastor�s denial of baby dedication reflects poor theology [View all] cbayer Oct 2013 OP

So much for ... rustysgurl Oct 2013 #1

No kidding gopiscrap Oct 2013 #4

I am an agnostic but have a fairly good knowledge of the bible pennylane100 Oct 2013 #2

I think the best thing to do is to shine light on him. cbayer Oct 2013 #5

Does that hold for mosques and temples, as well? Igel Oct 2013 #19

"Whosoever shall receive one such child in my name receiveth me." Matthew 18:5 raging moderate Oct 2013 #26

Another is "The Sabbath is made for man, not man for the Sabbath" Mark 2:27 Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2013 #38

I totally agree gopiscrap Oct 2013 #3

Mr Winans could notice that our Saint Mary was in a family way irregularly too and that struggle4progress Oct 2013 #6

The irony here is absurd, isn't it. cbayer Oct 2013 #7

I suspect him, at least, of being an uninspired reader of his texts, which seem to me struggle4progress Oct 2013 #8

"it�s not faith that is to blame here." dimbear Oct 2013 #9

Pope Francis on .. unmarried mothers ... (Guardian 13 Mar 2013) struggle4progress Oct 2013 #10

Of course none of this would matter skepticscott Oct 2013 #12

Winans doesn't seem to be Catholic, and the Pope's statements predate the Charity Grace case struggle4progress Oct 2013 #13

Who said I was talking about Charity Grace? Obviously I wasn't. skepticscott Oct 2013 #14

#10 is a quote from the current Pope back when he was still Archbishop: the full quote does not struggle4progress Oct 2013 #15

Whether or not his faith is "standard" is irrelevant Act_of_Reparation Oct 2013 #16

"misrepresentation in #9 of Winans' attitude as standard Christian faith" ? dimbear Oct 2013 #17

My comments in #12 bear NO relation to the story in #11? skepticscott Oct 2013 #18

What people do you know have "hysterical fears about needing to get their children baptized"? rug Oct 2013 #20

Skepticscott has nothing substantial to add Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2013 #39

Why is it important for a child to be baptized? Bradical79 Oct 2013 #33

I can't see much point to arguing with you on this subject: you're certainly free struggle4progress Oct 2013 #35

You brought it up Bradical79 Oct 2013 #36

It's not my OP. And my #13 was a response to #12, which sought to blame the entire matter struggle4progress Oct 2013 #37

s4p, you're the one who brought the pope's position into the discussion! trotsky Oct 2013 #40

Why is it Catholic bashing skepticscott Nov 2013 #41

Such an exciting conversational prospect! You promise to regard whatever I say as an amusing dodge! struggle4progress Nov 2013 #42

And you come through like a trooper skepticscott Nov 2013 #43

+1000 nt PassingFair Oct 2013 #23

Pope calls single mother, offers to baptize her child (Sept 2013) struggle4progress Oct 2013 #11

I'm so glad Catholic clergy pulled this sort of BS when my father wanted me baptized. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #21

There are other churches who will welcome the mother and child. No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #22

Emperor Constantine, called Constantine the Great and a Saint in the Eastern Church was dimbear Oct 2013 #24

Actually, it's very doubtful okasha Oct 2013 #25

That Bronze Age book Mr. Winans thinks he follows says ALL people are sinners, one way or another. raging moderate Oct 2013 #27

Godly rebuke is not judgmental� sophia_petty Oct 2013 #28

Welcome to the religion room. As a Christian I find it more important that the clergy show the love hrmjustin Oct 2013 #29

LOL trotsky Oct 2013 #30

Jesus was conceived outside of wedlock, and only because Joseph was a Godly man.... moriah Oct 2013 #31

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #32

In order to decide whether or not to rebuke, the pastor must judge whether or not he thinks it neede uppityperson Oct 2013 #34