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pinto

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24. If done in good faith, honestly from the parish level to the Bishops to the Vatican,
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 04:32 PM
Nov 2013

this may well be a good review of the role a very bureaucratic church plays in present day terms. I've read the "preparatory document". It's typically stilted, formal. Includes many Latin phrases and references to previous Vatican councils.

Although it's framed in established dogma it could provide an "on the ground" picture for the extremely insular Vatican hierarchy.

May be an attempt to move away from previous Papal opinions which advocated reforming the church around the strictly doctrinaire.

May be an attempt at revisiting the relatively more open "big tent" approach of John XXIII.

Or it may be a consideration of how to expand established church doctrine by simply stating them in more modern terms.

It'll be interesting to watch how it goes. Francis seems to have one foot planted in a more humanistic role for the church and the other in the historical, more dogmatic role.


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Excellent. cbayer Nov 2013 #1
There are nine multi-part questions, none multiple choice. rug Nov 2013 #2
So much for revealed truth. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #3
LOL trotsky Nov 2013 #4
What does this even mean? cbayer Nov 2013 #5
Ask yourself, what *IS* the Catholic Church? AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #6
Ok, I asked myself all those questions and came to a different conclusion. cbayer Nov 2013 #7
If they have access to a revealed truth by god, and god is what they claim he is AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #8
Wow. Talk about dogma. cbayer Nov 2013 #10
No it doesn't. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #11
You may feel even more assured that the entire church is fabricated nonsense, cbayer Nov 2013 #12
It should not be comforting. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #13
I realize that's your crusade, but it's not going to happen. cbayer Nov 2013 #14
Not if I can demonstrate it. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #15
Why are you less acerbic about it IRL? cbayer Nov 2013 #16
Their faith is not worthy of consideration, no. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #17
I also deplore charlatans and snake oil salesmen, but I respect and support cbayer Nov 2013 #18
There is, however, baggage that inevitably comes along with most faiths. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #19
Sure there's baggage. Some of it can be negative and some very positive. cbayer Nov 2013 #21
I am glad you hate straw men, cbayer. trotsky Nov 2013 #20
If the church claims to have revealed truth about god(s)... trotsky Nov 2013 #9
Seems like a questionare Lordquinton Nov 2013 #22
I think this is a good thing. I hope they listen to the people. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #23
If done in good faith, honestly from the parish level to the Bishops to the Vatican, pinto Nov 2013 #24
Why would they bother? brooklynite Nov 2013 #25
I think Francis may well be doing that to an extent. pinto Nov 2013 #26
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