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goldent

(1,582 posts)
45. Final thoughts
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:29 PM
Apr 2014

I appreciate your thoughts - I'll try to respond in kind. First, it seems you were expecting or hoping for a lot of discussion from Catholics about this. Frankly, I didn't for a couple of reasons...

- There is not a lot of activity in this group overall. Just look at the history.

- I think people in safe-haven groups tend not to bring up "downer" stories a lot - at least that is what I noticed is several safe-haven groups. For discussing downer stories, you might as well go to the Religion group - there are plenty to choose from and plenty of activity.

- I suspect a low portion of DU Catholics post here. I think in DU there is a feeling that you will be viewed negatively if you admit to being a Catholic - for sure you see this in the Religion group. Plus a lot of DU people who are Catholics just don't have a lot to say about it - they come to DU to discuss politics.

I think you may be reducing the RCC to its policy on gay marriage (one that would be considered mainstream not so many years ago). Maybe Catholics view the RCC as a much larger thing and view the policy on gay marriage as a wart -- not a good thing, but small part of the body. I suspect if you saw an outline of RCC's social doctrine, you would agree with >75% of it. Of course, you could say, I don't care if I agree with 99% of it - the gay marriage policy is a deal breaker. Everyone has to decide what is right for themselves.

In the end, I hope you understand that when I voted for Pres Obama in 2008, I didn't do it because I thought his position against gay marriage was right - I did it for many other reasons. And similarly, I am not a member of the RCC because I think its position against gay marriage is right, I am a member for many other reasons.

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Thanks, Rug Goacher Apr 2014 #1
You're welcome. rug Apr 2014 #6
But does it matter? Goacher Apr 2014 #10
Of course it does. Religious people in general, and Catholics in particular, are not automatons. rug Apr 2014 #12
That phrase is troubling, though Goacher Apr 2014 #13
That's true of anyone in power, though, isn't it? rug Apr 2014 #14
Certainly Goacher Apr 2014 #17
The trite answer is the Pope has to answer to God. rug Apr 2014 #19
So... Goacher Apr 2014 #21
It is a facetious question. It is also completely unresponsive to what I wrote. rug Apr 2014 #22
I disagree completely Goacher Apr 2014 #24
Humani Generis, 1950. rug Apr 2014 #26
Great Goacher Apr 2014 #27
I'm no scholar but it seems to be. rug Apr 2014 #28
Interesting article Goacher Apr 2014 #29
You left out Mendel: 1866 - Experiments on Plant Hybridization rug Apr 2014 #30
Well... Goacher Apr 2014 #31
Not at all. I critique it myyself. rug Apr 2014 #32
Granted Goacher Apr 2014 #33
It depends on the doctrine and at what level it is held. rug Apr 2014 #34
In your opinion, is leaving the church a valid tactic? Goacher Apr 2014 #36
For what? rug Apr 2014 #37
I'm not sure if I understand Goacher Apr 2014 #38
Leaving the Church as a valid tactic for what? Reform? Change? rug Apr 2014 #40
But wait Goacher Apr 2014 #41
As a political move, I think it does. rug Apr 2014 #42
I hope he changes his mind on this. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #2
Erm, well... Goacher Apr 2014 #3
And? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #4
That brings up an interesting point. rug Apr 2014 #11
This was my comment in that thread. rug Apr 2014 #5
A good response. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #7
Roger that Goacher Apr 2014 #8
You might get some responses in the morning. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #9
The Pope's comments are part of Church doctrine, so are not a surprise. goldent Apr 2014 #15
See my response #14 Goacher Apr 2014 #18
I'm not sure what you are looking for goldent Apr 2014 #35
I'm not sure at this point, either Goacher Apr 2014 #44
Final thoughts goldent Apr 2014 #45
Excellent summary Goacher Apr 2014 #46
I don't know why anyone is surprised that a social conservative Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #16
It's not a question of being surprised Goacher Apr 2014 #20
What do you mean, "badgering"? rug Apr 2014 #23
Yes, I declined Goacher Apr 2014 #25
No Only But Also... Goacher Apr 2014 #39
OK, you want an opinion Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #43
God doesn't change His mind. Neither can His Bible be reinterpreted TeeSell May 2014 #47
I'm confused Goacher May 2014 #48
I am reminded of a bit from the TV show "The West Wing" Fortinbras Armstrong May 2014 #49
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