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Orsino

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57. Intentions will come and go as the program progresses...

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:41 PM

Dec 2014

...or is canceled, or is replaced. The earliest LEM designs didn't look a lot like what actually went to the moon, either. There was supposed to have been an Apollo 18. Gemini missions didn't launch on Saturn Vs. Plans change.

No, a Republican Congress isn't going to approve any expenditures that aren't corporate welfare, or that aren't also corporate welfare. If the goal of the designers is Mars, however, what we're seeing so far looks sensible. What turns out to be best for particular roles in a landing (after we know more about the target) or later landings may look a little--or a lot--different.

John Boehner's golfing buddy's brother-in-law's aerospace business will no doubt be a consideration, but that has no bearing on whether or not a crewed Mars mission should be attempted.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] guyton Dec 2014 OP

I would imagine the person would be put in suspended animation or deep sleep Lugano Dec 2014 #1

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Somebody has been watching too many SciFi flicks. longship Dec 2014 #7

I don't know about that qazplm Dec 2014 #15

Possibly, however... longship Dec 2014 #18

The latest NASA 'reference mission' (2009) uses Orion as a re-entry vessel to Earth muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #20

Thank you. longship Dec 2014 #21

The people-on-Mars thing just seems way too expensive and wasteful to me. arcane1 Dec 2014 #27

Well, then there's this argument... longship Dec 2014 #31

Very good points! But it's a very low priority at the moment, considering things like climate change arcane1 Dec 2014 #34

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BING, BING, BING, BING, BING! longship Dec 2014 #45

"let's solve our problems here" ALWAYS = "never never never never no no no no never." Posteritatis Dec 2014 #50

Oddly enough people can walk and chew gum at the same time. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #46

Kill Joy. I betcha next you will be telling us that we can't just truedelphi Dec 2014 #33

Well, there's always the continuity problem with Star Trek transporters. longship Dec 2014 #36

I am off to read your link. I do want to point out truedelphi Dec 2014 #52

And to you, too. longship Dec 2014 #53

Only the beginning...of a program that would take 20 years and 500 Billion dollars.... truebluegreen Dec 2014 #2

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If there is no intention to spend the money it would actually take to make that goal a reality truebluegreen Dec 2014 #13

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Intentions will come and go as the program progresses... Orsino Dec 2014 #57

Engineering discover and experiment IS SCIENCE. ^^^ support 1000% on point Dec 2014 #43

It's designed as a giant immersive bong MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #5

The problem with Orion going to Mars is shielding. longship Dec 2014 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #9

I can't tell if they intend to send an Orion capsule to Mars at all muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #12

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I looked further, and found their most recent plan, from 2009 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #32

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Thanks for all the information. truedelphi Dec 2014 #35

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They'll need shielding once they get there, too, if they plan to stay awhile. arcane1 Dec 2014 #29

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Why the hell do we need to put men on Mars? Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #11

because sooner or later qazplm Dec 2014 #16

All going to the Moon proved was that we could do it. Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #17

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What other advancements in science were achieved by going to the moon? lob1 Dec 2014 #30

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No, the only place humans belong is here on Earth cpwm17 Dec 2014 #48

WE will never leave this planet FiveGoodMen Dec 2014 #62

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Unmanned supply delivery before astronaunts arrive at Mars NickB79 Dec 2014 #14

This is the only practical solution. longship Dec 2014 #19

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And you are correct. longship Dec 2014 #26

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I concur. longship Dec 2014 #40

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And don't forget Barbara Bain. longship Dec 2014 #44

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Who plays a nun in PBS's (BBC) "Call the Midwife" longship Dec 2014 #54

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She's just great. Period. longship Dec 2014 #56

Heh, I remember how many people here were *utterly* certain that wasn't going to work. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #47

Mars missions have failed due to the distance and human error. Thor_MN Dec 2014 #58

You've got a good point there. longship Dec 2014 #59

I like the idea of using Deimos as a refuelling point muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #60

AKA "Mars Direct" ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2014 #61

Can Elon Musk and SpaceX put humans on Mars before NASA -- and for less money? LongTomH Dec 2014 #63