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greyl

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5. What's your definition of person?

Reply to MADem (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:46 AM

Jun 2015

What are the necessary requirements for personhood?

By what measure have you ruled out Orcinus orca?

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Are killer whales persons? [View all] RandySF Jun 2015 OP

Yes, deathrind Jun 2015 #1

No modern and forethinking definition of "person" would require "human only". nt greyl Jun 2015 #2

+1 n/t Alkene Jun 2015 #12

I don't think they are persons. MADem Jun 2015 #3

What's your definition of person? greyl Jun 2015 #5

Let's start with the obvious...they need to be homo sapiens. MADem Jun 2015 #8

Obvious in an infantile sense, maybe, but not justified. That's a foregone conclusion. nt greyl Jun 2015 #11

I come from the "words have meanings" school of thought. MADem Jun 2015 #14

Like I don't? greyl Jun 2015 #16

I'm rather surprised that you're taking offense, given you MADem Jun 2015 #17

Right, you couldn't imagine... nt greyl Jun 2015 #18

Quite right--I couldn't. I don't see a need for name calling simply MADem Jun 2015 #19

Hate to break this to you... you aren't a homo sapiens. DetlefK Jun 2015 #27

I'm from multiple regions, not just Europe, though I have some MADem Jun 2015 #28

Can you prove that you are a person? DetlefK Jun 2015 #29

I think it depends on how we define personhood. RandySF Jun 2015 #6

Well, then they are self-actualized beings who are dolphins, then--but not MADem Jun 2015 #9

if corporations are people, why not killer whales? elehhhhna Jun 2015 #22

I try never to get stuck on the meanings of words. Words are very shifty things. hunter Jun 2015 #24

I don't agree about the "marriage" word. All marriage means is "union." MADem Jun 2015 #25

I'm not going to repeat everything you've said on this post simply because you've.. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #32

Thank you!!! MADem Jul 2015 #33

“Right now, there is no one besides a human who is a person,” Huh? Citizens United has made valerief Jun 2015 #4

also +1 n/t Alkene Jun 2015 #13

Maybe that awful decision can do some good BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #15

One of the TV commercials on for GE right now is boasting about their Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #21

Or what about the booms Obama approved? BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #23

No, they aren't persons awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #7

Human superiority has always been a myth. Live and Learn Jun 2015 #10

we are superior in several measurable ways qazplm Jul 2015 #34

I suspect all cetaceans are. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #20

So, how shall we define a person in the broadest sense? DetlefK Jun 2015 #26

No qazplm Jul 2015 #30

we have to keep our minds open RussBLib Jul 2015 #31

Only if they can rise above their cetacean. Orrex Jul 2015 #35