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BrotherIvan

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23. Or what about the booms Obama approved?

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:44 PM

Jun 2015

It is so messed up what we are doing to the oceans. And that is going to kill us. We know more about distant planets than our own oceans and think we can mess around all we want. I hope the sea rises up and fights back personally because what humans are doing is appalling.

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Are killer whales persons? [View all] RandySF Jun 2015 OP

Yes, deathrind Jun 2015 #1

No modern and forethinking definition of "person" would require "human only". nt greyl Jun 2015 #2

+1 n/t Alkene Jun 2015 #12

I don't think they are persons. MADem Jun 2015 #3

What's your definition of person? greyl Jun 2015 #5

Let's start with the obvious...they need to be homo sapiens. MADem Jun 2015 #8

Obvious in an infantile sense, maybe, but not justified. That's a foregone conclusion. nt greyl Jun 2015 #11

I come from the "words have meanings" school of thought. MADem Jun 2015 #14

Like I don't? greyl Jun 2015 #16

I'm rather surprised that you're taking offense, given you MADem Jun 2015 #17

Right, you couldn't imagine... nt greyl Jun 2015 #18

Quite right--I couldn't. I don't see a need for name calling simply MADem Jun 2015 #19

Hate to break this to you... you aren't a homo sapiens. DetlefK Jun 2015 #27

I'm from multiple regions, not just Europe, though I have some MADem Jun 2015 #28

Can you prove that you are a person? DetlefK Jun 2015 #29

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I'm not going to repeat everything you've said on this post simply because you've.. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #32

Thank you!!! MADem Jul 2015 #33

�Right now, there is no one besides a human who is a person,� Huh? Citizens United has made valerief Jun 2015 #4

also +1 n/t Alkene Jun 2015 #13

Maybe that awful decision can do some good BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #15

One of the TV commercials on for GE right now is boasting about their Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #21

Or what about the booms Obama approved? BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #23

No, they aren't persons awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #7

Human superiority has always been a myth. Live and Learn Jun 2015 #10

we are superior in several measurable ways qazplm Jul 2015 #34

I suspect all cetaceans are. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #20

So, how shall we define a person in the broadest sense? DetlefK Jun 2015 #26

No qazplm Jul 2015 #30

we have to keep our minds open RussBLib Jul 2015 #31

Only if they can rise above their cetacean. Orrex Jul 2015 #35