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Joseph8th

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54. Physics is NOT illogical or irrational...

Reply to bananas (Reply #51)

Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:30 AM

Mar 2012

... MY point is that proving a purely mathematical theorem proves nothing about the physical universe. Physics depends on mathematics, but the converse is not true.

I'm not acting like some sort of expert...

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Quantum Biology and the Puzzle of Coherence [View all] xchrom Mar 2012 OP

However, it would be a big mistake... longship Mar 2012 #1

Straight to the point tama Mar 2012 #3

Is coherence selected or a structural by-product? Jim__ Mar 2012 #4

Wider context tama Mar 2012 #8

I'm not sure why you would begin by looking at a wider context. Jim__ Mar 2012 #15

To begin with tama Mar 2012 #16

A couple of thoughts. Jim__ Mar 2012 #33

A clarification tama Mar 2012 #36

Lack of any supporting data longship Mar 2012 #5

The word "decoherence" tama Mar 2012 #6

This is complete and utter rubbish longship Mar 2012 #9

But, but... someone was wrong about something before... Silent3 Mar 2012 #11

I disagree tama Mar 2012 #13

Your endless devotion to vagueness is certainly amusing, however. Silent3 Mar 2012 #17

Why don't you even try? tama Mar 2012 #19

You seem to be getting different posters confused Silent3 Mar 2012 #20

Flattering ad hominem, thanks for that tama Mar 2012 #28

I have no problem with people trying to understand "quantum" Silent3 Mar 2012 #29

You are making up tama Mar 2012 #31

New Age? longship Mar 2012 #32

Pseudoskepticism tama Mar 2012 #45

Thank you. Thank you. And THANK YOU!!! nt Joseph8th Mar 2012 #40

Nice tama Mar 2012 #12

Sorry! Your post makes no physical sense longship Mar 2012 #18

First tama Mar 2012 #24

Tama, I'm with you longship Mar 2012 #30

Well that's clearly wrong bananas Mar 2012 #34

Wonderful take down longship Mar 2012 #35

Quantum cryptography, quantum teleportation, superconductors are some other examples bananas Mar 2012 #48

Please! It's bad enough to tarnish QM... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #41

G�del tama Mar 2012 #43

Looking for a ToE ... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #46

Abstract tama Mar 2012 #47

Not sure why I'm bothering, but... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #49

Some good points tama Mar 2012 #50

Heheh... Cantor's Paradise... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #53

LOL - "mathematical theorems ... bear no relation to physics" bananas Mar 2012 #51

Math is not physics... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #52

Physics is NOT illogical or irrational... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #54

I didn't know there were Militant Holists, now... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #38

LOL tama Mar 2012 #39

OMG... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #42

Condencending tone tama Mar 2012 #44

Anybody tama Mar 2012 #7

Hmm. DeWitt. Interesting longship Mar 2012 #10

First tama Mar 2012 #14

Okay, I'm with you on all except the "observer" longship Mar 2012 #21

Well, I think there's more to the "observer" unless you're effectively redefining the term caraher Mar 2012 #22

Touch�, Zurek is above my pay grade longship Mar 2012 #23

I do think we're broadly in agreement caraher Mar 2012 #26

Thanks tama Mar 2012 #27

See post 24 for answer to also this n/t tama Mar 2012 #25

Delayed choice experiment tama Mar 2012 #37

So Stuart Kaufmann is still working.. arendt Mar 2012 #2