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hunter

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15. In my favorite model of the universe everything looks pretty much the same...
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:46 AM
Aug 2020

... wherever or whenever you go.

Wherever and whenever are the same thing in my model. We're all just patterns in the light. No matter where you go there you are.

If you go 20 billion years in any direction (including time), this universe looks the same. By our current perception it would still look like there was some "beginning," a big bang maybe. But that beginning may be an illusion.

Other models are much smaller, starting hot and ending cold. Or they are cyclic.

Alas "faster than light" travel and time travel are impossible in this universe, and more to the point, this universe doesn't care what humans think. The universe will go on doing its own thing with or without us.

Most of us have gotten past the idea that the earth is the center of the universe and that everything up in the sky revolves around us, but very few of us are willing to accept we are not the center of time. Without a "now" to grasp onto, what is the meaning of our lives?

When earth was the center of creation and the universe was very small, with some god watching it all spinning around like a proud clock maker, it was much easier to feel like we were important. After all, we humans were created in god's image. It says so in a book.

It's much more difficult to establish our own meanings in a universe that's very large, extending beyond the 13.8 billion years we can observe.

How small are we? Here's some galaxies:



Not stars, galaxies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Observatories_Origins_Deep_Survey

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I've always thought there's no way the universe ever 'was not' and then it 'was' mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #1
According to My Son The Astronomer, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #2
That's the common hypothesis. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #6
That assumes space is infinite though. cstanleytech Aug 2020 #10
I've thought of it this way since I was about ten. hedda_foil Aug 2020 #3
Well the blackholes are part of it as they are what causes the eventually curving that will lead to cstanleytech Aug 2020 #11
Makes way more sense to this pea brained mortal. KPN Aug 2020 #4
Nothing new about this at all-- Einstein talked about a cyclic universe and ancent Hindus... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #5
But that is just it there was never no nothing. If there was then we would not exist so there had to cstanleytech Aug 2020 #12
Of course it does. But, have you ever tried to imagine what nothing is? We're here, but what if... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #14
The universe was created by a black hole pushing matter from another. Glamrock Aug 2020 #7
Everything that we can calculate goes back to the moment of the Big Bang. mn9driver Aug 2020 #8
that's what my brainy friends tell me stopdiggin Aug 2020 #9
Right. If all the energy of the universe was in a single point, there's no evidence to tell us unblock Aug 2020 #13
In my favorite model of the universe everything looks pretty much the same... hunter Aug 2020 #15
I've always found the bang and crunch model more elegant Warpy Aug 2020 #16
The real problem with these "theories" is that they are not subject to proof or disproof. NNadir Aug 2020 #17
A little off-topic CloudWatcher Aug 2020 #18
Interesting.nt CatLady78 Aug 2020 #19
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