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OKIsItJustMe

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12. We both realize that (I was even repeating myself)

Reply to eppur_se_muova (Reply #10)

Sat May 16, 2026, 04:28 PM

20 hrs ago

I just didn’t want the casual reader confusing the two. While both projects (NERVA and Orion) started at (roughly) the same time, Orion was absurd, and NERVA (much more) practical. NERVA-style engines were built and tested.

https://www.nasa.gov/rocket-systems-area-nuclear-rockets/

I keep imagining astronauts sitting atop a rocket being thrust into space by a series of powerful explosions, the ride was quite rough enough on conventional engines. (Presumably, they would have had some immense "shock absorbers” to cushion them from the blasts… The structural metal required to hold the rocket together would have added so much mass…)

They might as well have fired them from a giant cannon!

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Another fucking waste of money. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #1

Previous ion engines have favored very heavy atoms as propellant -- mercury or xenon. More atomic mass -- eppur_se_muova Yesterday #2

The NERVA engine used hydrogen, so (you know) lithium is heavier than that, but certainly lighter than mercury OKIsItJustMe Yesterday #4

Hydrogen is being used there as ejectable mass, nothing more. It's handled by mechanical pumps and pressure. eppur_se_muova Yesterday #5

Check out the NASA paper I added to the bottom of the reply OKIsItJustMe Yesterday #6

Thanks for the paper. I knew about the older nuclear interest. eppur_se_muova Yesterday #7

NERVA was not the same as Orion OKIsItJustMe 23 hrs ago #8

Yes, I know that, thank you. In fact you're just repeating things I've already said in my replies. nt eppur_se_muova 20 hrs ago #10

We both realize that (I was even repeating myself) OKIsItJustMe 20 hrs ago #12

Ah, OK ... writing for a larger audience ... eppur_se_muova 19 hrs ago #14

I've been watching "For All Mankind" on Apple TV OKIsItJustMe 18 hrs ago #15

Isn't lithium in somewhat short supply? erronis Yesterday #3

Meanwhile, at a grossly overspent under intellectual trump supported SpaceX 3825-87867 21 hrs ago #9

NASA is facing serious cuts OKIsItJustMe 20 hrs ago #11

More from the paper cited by OKIsItJustMe .... eppur_se_muova 19 hrs ago #13

"It must have been a real pleasure to work out the mathematics of MPD for the first time..." OKIsItJustMe 18 hrs ago #16