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M Kitt

(208 posts)
12. Human/Chimpanzee Comparisons?
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:30 AM - Edit history (4)

I'll overlook what some may consider to be an offensive reference here, don't think it was intentional. "Chimpanzee Tribes", really?

Racism Genetically Inherited? Don't think so, unless you consider the "Fight or Flight" response hard-wired into mammals to be a "Genetic" trait.

Setting aside the comparative "Chimpanzee" reference you've used, As Humans our Limbic systems are geared toward Fear/Aggression, so "Outsiders" (those not within our social circles) can be threatening to those of us so inclined, triggering a possible Fight/Flight response under the right conditions. But (again) that's mammalian, not Genetically predisposed.

That's nothing to with Race, of course. The same kind of "Threat" would be posed by a broad range of conditions that threaten ALL OF US including Fires, Earthquakes, bad weather, or perhaps loss of personal security. We're all "Tense" and "Threatened" by conditions that interfere with our "Comfort", Race being no part of it.

You may also want to review the "Origins of Species", our so-called "Racial" differences aren't significant, supposing that I accept the premise that we humans belong to separate "Races", that is, which I don't Especially given that we're all descendants of those elder Humans emerging "Out of Africa"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/humans/humankind/k.html

But contrary to what you've posted, there may even have been some "Cross-Genetic" (Inter-Species) DNA mixing going on. Hasn't yet been proven (or disproved).

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/humans/humankind/n.html


Current Social Conditions

I can find several obvious exceptions to the circumstances you've described, but foremost it's easily countered with the understanding that we're all (humans) descended from a lineage originating from the plains of Africa, as proven by fossil/paleontology evidence (supported by DNA research, see above).

Supposing that we ignore current Genetic evidence AGAINST your claim, let's take a moment to observe current Society, let's look for a few simple behaviors we're all familiar with that are entirely CONTRARY to what you've proposed.

Learned Behaviors and Humans

If the condition you've described were provably the case, that we're all inclined to "Aggression" against each other based on distinctions as minor as color, why do you suppose humans would so readily have offspring (Children, of Course) with persons they're "racially" different from? Do you suppose that ALL current humans aren't ALREADY actually a broad mix of the DNA prevalent across this planet?

From Africa to Asia, to South/North America, we're all today an amalgam of what you're calling "Races" distributed across this planet, and there's no such thing as "True Genetic Lineage" unless you consider possible Neanderthal/Human interbreeding to have been "True Lineage" at the time of occurrence

Suppose one of my parents were white, the other black. Think "Genetics" would run contrary to that, cause literal REJECTION of either of my parents because of the Genetic Predisposition you've described? Doesn't seem to be a "Survival Trait", now does it?

Given that we as Humans are 99.9% plus identical on the DNA scale, REGARDLESS of "race" or ethnicity, you're promoting a pretty narrow view of human behavior, supposing that we "REJECT each other based on RACE", due to Genetic Traits.

Prevailing evidence certainly doesn't support that, thankfully



. libodem Jul 2013 #1
Thanks Libodem. Not sure I get the combined(?) "Meta-Message" but the thumbs-up is encouraging ;-) M Kitt Jul 2013 #2
The donkey libodem Jul 2013 #3
OK, think I get it now. Generally supportive, what I supposed ;-) M Kitt Jul 2013 #4
You are entirely welcome libodem Jul 2013 #5
As Posted on the Race & Ethnicity sub-group M Kitt Jul 2013 #6
Of course I did libodem Jul 2013 #7
M Kitt, beneath this title and intoduction I have posted a criticism intaglio Jul 2013 #8
Religious Intolerance and Racism, Not a Concern for you? M Kitt Jul 2013 #9
You're confusing terms in a way that makes them undefinable. Igel Aug 2013 #14
@Igel, did a google search for the "Raven" quote at the end of your post. M Kitt Aug 2013 #15
What you see at the end of Igel's posts, and many other posters', is a 'signature' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #17
@MV, OK, thanks. By the way, interesting icon you're sporting ;-) M Kitt Aug 2013 #18
Disagree. Racism is genetically inherited. Religion is socially inherited. DetlefK Jul 2013 #10
"Religion is socially inherited" FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #11
Human/Chimpanzee Comparisons? M Kitt Jul 2013 #12
Racism can be defeated the same way Veganism was created. DetlefK Jul 2013 #13
I think you have it backwards Major Nikon Sep 2013 #22
Depends on what "biological" means. DetlefK Sep 2013 #23
I think some have floated this idea, but I'm pretty sure it's been rejected by most experts Major Nikon Sep 2013 #24
People aren't defined as strangers by their skin colour or other classes of appearance muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #16
Early humans weren't naked the whole time. DetlefK Aug 2013 #19
I popped on here from a link libodem Sep 2013 #20
OK, fitting since you commented first on it ;-) M Kitt Sep 2013 #21
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