Atheists & Agnostics

JNelson6563

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75. I find this insulting...

Mon May 5, 2014, 10:19 PM

May 2014

On Mon May 5, 2014, 10:59 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I think Warren did a far better job upthread describing what is meant by "dishonest"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1230&pid=22336

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

my wife is most certainly not dishonest

this is a lie

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon May 5, 2014, 11:08 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Lol, this is the Atheists
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This group is a safe haven for atheists. This poster has been here two weeks and has been mostly posting in this safe haven but in a disruptive sort of way. If a poster wants to defend religion/religionists, they should do it somewhere other than the AA group.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think somebody needs a thicker skin. Step away from the alert button.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This comment is made in the context of a complex religious discussion involving opinions so I don't think it violates any of the rules here.

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If you are going to jaw with the atheists, you better be ready for hand to hand ... gloves off..
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Shouldn't have brought your wife into it. Plus, alerter, you're being pretty mean in some other posts, so I find this alert disingenuous at best.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
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Have read many of your posts and get the distinct smell of chum when doing so. It would appear I am correct. You should read and heed the juror comments.

I was juror #2 fyi. Not all juries get packed with over-sensitive believers. Better luck next time. If there is a next time...

Julie

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Dishonesty and thoughtlessness in believers. [View all] Warren Stupidity May 2014 OP

I knew exactly what you meant when you first said that. trotsky May 2014 #1

I don't see peoples' faith as being dishonest simply because they don't fit some fundamentalist... stone space May 2014 #2

I realize that dishonest has a really negative connotation, but I don't mean "deliberately lying" Warren Stupidity May 2014 #5

Maybe the problem isn't in the answers. Maybe the problem is in the questions. stone space May 2014 #7

What a terrible analogy. trotsky May 2014 #8

No, I'm saying that they might define their religious beliefs differently that... stone space May 2014 #9

Then you need a different analogy. trotsky May 2014 #18

i have many atheist beliefs (nt) stone space May 2014 #21

And I have a unicorn. trotsky May 2014 #23

would that be a literal unicorn or a metaphorical unicorn? (nt) stone space May 2014 #24

Yes! n/t trotsky May 2014 #26

cool! stone space May 2014 #28

Core beliefs? Work hard, be nice, and probably some spanish proverb... stone space May 2014 #66

And I don't know which is worse. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #3

There is something more to be respected about the literalist skepticscott May 2014 #6

Maybe they don't have any beliefs solid enough to pin down LostOne4Ever May 2014 #4

See my post #7 above. stone space May 2014 #10

Fundementalist Literalist Atheists? uriel1972 May 2014 #11

I was hoping somebody would notice that...lol. stone space May 2014 #12

I don't think an atheist can interperet the bible in such a manner... uriel1972 May 2014 #13

Well you could get that point across with just literalist atheist LostOne4Ever May 2014 #15

Well, I'm not really used to using the terms "literalist" or "modernist". stone space May 2014 #17

Well there is a difference between the common definition of the word LostOne4Ever May 2014 #61

I found a cool word on wikipedia once. stone space May 2014 #63

Here is another cool concept related to this topic LostOne4Ever May 2014 #64

No such atheist exists. trotsky May 2014 #19

That's a fine thing to do, in a discussion with a literalist christian. stone space May 2014 #20

Also a fine thing to do in a discussion with a moderate Christian. trotsky May 2014 #22

if you are a literalist atheist, then go for it stone space May 2014 #25

Again no such thing and I would appreciate if you would stop insulting atheists. trotsky May 2014 #27

i didn't see it as insulting, just descriptive stone space May 2014 #29

But not one of the flavors is "biblical literalist." trotsky May 2014 #30

If an atheist takes a literalist position with respect to the bible in a discussion with... stone space May 2014 #33

Aha - key word: "acting" trotsky May 2014 #34

Now there's an interesting question, regarding what makes one a christian. stone space May 2014 #35

I think it's been pretty well established... trotsky May 2014 #38

How so? stone space May 2014 #39

Math != religion trotsky May 2014 #40

I never said it was, but you are claiming that taking something literally = believing it. (nt) stone space May 2014 #41

When it comes to a holy book, uh, yeah, that's kind of the point. trotsky May 2014 #43

"Advanced Atheism"? That's sounds like an interesting topic worthy of its own thread. (nt) stone space May 2014 #44

Perhaps you could tell us a little about your atheism. trotsky May 2014 #46

answers stone space May 2014 #47

Why don't you believe in any gods? n/t trotsky May 2014 #48

Not sure I can point to any particular reason. It's just what I believe. I don't claim to have... stone space May 2014 #49

So you have no reasons, none at all, to reject belief in gods? trotsky May 2014 #52

I didn't just decide to call myself an atheist. I call myself an atheist because that's what... stone space May 2014 #54

Why don't you believe in any gods? n/t trotsky May 2014 #55

I don't know. stone space May 2014 #57

You keep using that term: "atheist beliefs." trotsky May 2014 #58

Oh, I have lots of atheist beliefs, far too many to list here. stone space May 2014 #62

I've got news for you. trotsky May 2014 #83

Do you tell Christians what their Christian beliefs are and are not, also? stone space May 2014 #84

Christianity is a religion. trotsky May 2014 #91

Speaking of patterns skepticscott May 2014 #100

You keep using the word "atheist" - mr blur May 2014 #86

Oh, Cluster Bomb Christianity has been around for a long, long time, also. stone space May 2014 #92

Atheism is about a lack of belief in any god. That is it. Goblinmonger May 2014 #93

I 'm not offended in the slightest. No need to apologise, mr blur May 2014 #94

And you may not have met one yet skepticscott May 2014 #101

wait, you have to start from: that book is the revealed truth from god. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #50

The post you replied to was only addressing the question of whether or not... stone space May 2014 #51

and again, when the text being read claims to be the truth Warren Stupidity May 2014 #53

Taking something literally does not = believing that the literal interpretation is true. (nt) stone space May 2014 #56

I give up. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #59

A literalist believer believes. stone space May 2014 #60

Perhaps it's you who is posting in the wrong Group? mr blur May 2014 #36

Am I? Are atheists not allowed here? (nt) stone space May 2014 #37

Of course atheists are 'allowed' here; you just seem a little confused. nt mr blur May 2014 #42

Oh, I'm confused about a lot of things. Aren't we all? (nt) stone space May 2014 #45

I find this insulting... JNelson6563 May 2014 #75

It's a haven for people to insult the families of atheists. stone space May 2014 #76

Believers and beliefs get discussed. JNelson6563 May 2014 #77

I don't even know what this means. stone space May 2014 #78

But you're an atheist, uh-huh, sure you are! JNelson6563 May 2014 #85

Claim atheism falsely? Am I being excommunicated? I didn't even know it was possible. stone space May 2014 #87

Just callin' a stinky pantload when I smell it. JNelson6563 May 2014 #89

My first foray into this discussion and my impression. Goblinmonger May 2014 #90

No dude you are being identified. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #95

Ha! EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #80

Just so you know, the word "fundamentalist" is frowned upon here in A&A EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #65

Oh, I get that. I'm atheist myself. stone space May 2014 #67

I've never met an atheist who "interpreted the bible literally" EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #69

Ok, now I'm confused. stone space May 2014 #71

I said you were free to use it EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #72

Freethinking has always had its consequences. stone space May 2014 #79

Incidentally, we are in a thread where people like my wife are being described with... stone space May 2014 #68

Sometimes the truth hurts EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #70

The truth about my wife is that she is dishonest??? stone space May 2014 #73

I think Warren did a far better job upthread describing what is meant by "dishonest" EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #74

and the alert nannies struck again. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #82

I don't like the word "nanny" EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #96

"True atheism"? You've reached the 'No True Atheist' defence? mr blur May 2014 #81

delicate fee fees nil desperandum May 2014 #88

Who mentioned your wife? mr blur May 2014 #98

I don't see how your reply relates to my comment LostOne4Ever May 2014 #14

Fundamentalist? intaglio May 2014 #99

I get what you're saying. I don't personally know if any biblical literalists, TxDemChem May 2014 #16

All religions nil desperandum May 2014 #31

I understood your meaning. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #32

I wrote this comment to stone space yesterday defacto7 May 2014 #97