Atheists & Agnostics
In reply to the discussion: Dishonesty and thoughtlessness in believers. [View all]defacto7
(13,485 posts)and decided not to post it. I am glad I didn't because the discussion that ensued has been very well said and I may have disrupted it. It follows and would have been comment #15:
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I've noticed a couple of things too..
Respectfully, I am not convinced of your sincerity. In reading your comments you either have no interest in change when confronted by the necessity, you have no respect for atheism or its constituents, you are making up your own religion, or you are just playing atheist for some strange reason. You use terms that are inconsistent with atheism and you're choosing to be consistent at it. Why is that? Your arguments, as well as any other person's arguments are worthy of discussion but your insistence on concept conjuring, definitions that could be interpreted as theistic, and case mangling at will is telling. Certainly math or English 104 has nothing to do with it. Didn't you once write that God wants to be a mathematician? Hmmm?
Maybe you decided to be atheist last week and haven't caught up.. and really don't want to catch up. I suppose that would be consistent, and hey, there's nothing wrong with being a newbie. If you are a newbie I apologize for confronting you, but trying to look like you know what your talking about and not learning from mistakes is suspicious... at least to this non-theist.
Honesty.. dishonesty...? or maybe I just distrust clergy-speak.
Be well.
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A person has to show some humility to be atheist because we can be wrong about a lot of things. Standing firm on a trusted premise is good but the real difference between atheists and theists is the ability to learn and evolve. Evolving does not include making up your own rules and expecting not to be confronted, that's naïve. Either our friend is new to atheism and has no desire to discuss outside his own world with it's own terms or he's very possibly not atheist at all.
I wish him well, but maybe it's time to grow up.