Atheists & Agnostics

Htom Sirveaux

(1,242 posts) Mon May 26, 2014, 08:35 PM May 2014

Skeptics, a question from a believer? [View all]

I hope you don't mind me visiting your group, but I've got a question for you that I don't want to degenerate into a flame war. And that question is this:

What do you want from believers in the religion group? What would help you to feel like both you and they are on the same team, if you don't feel that way currently?

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Skeptics, a question from a believer? [View all] Htom Sirveaux May 2014 OP

We can start with ending the assumption that Atheists are immoral monsters. Promethean May 2014 #1

I don't want your "help". Mr.Bill May 2014 #2

We would both be on the same team Curmudgeoness May 2014 #3

Can you expand on what falls under advocating for religion in the public realm? Htom Sirveaux May 2014 #4

That would have to declare the creator created, then walked away angstlessk May 2014 #5

An excellent question, but one I'd rather not discuss in this group. Htom Sirveaux May 2014 #6

I can't speak for Curmudgeoness... uriel1972 May 2014 #11

You are right on all counts. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #28

Ditto! But . . . Brainstormy May 2014 #26

A couple of things EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #7

I think you answered your own question in your first line. Lordquinton May 2014 #8

You have posed a very respectful honest question. defacto7 May 2014 #9

I don't want anything from those who have closed their minds... uriel1972 May 2014 #10

That exact question has been asked in another thread skepticscott May 2014 #12

The last time this question came up LostOne4Ever May 2014 #13

^^THIS^^ right fucking here Goblinmonger May 2014 #15

Fragrant or flagrant. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #18

Wow, REALLY good post EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #23

Excellent post. n/t RebelOne May 2014 #25

I think this should be pinned on the front page of the forum Heddi May 2014 #27

Am I too late to add my kudos for this post???? Curmudgeoness May 2014 #29

Excellent post skepticscott May 2014 #30

In the words of the late John Belushi.... Act_of_Reparation May 2014 #31

I've been burned by this before Goblinmonger May 2014 #36

Hell yea... it's a coupon Act_of_Reparation May 2014 #38

I'm still laughing over that one. onager May 2014 #46

"That poster-girl for Dunning-Kreuger Syndrome" trotsky May 2014 #47

I want to specifically commend you for documenting every one of your points with links. trotsky May 2014 #35

Thank you LostOne4Ever May 2014 #39

It wasn't a "call out" post AT ALL. trotsky May 2014 #40

Wow! This says it all! JNelson6563 May 2014 #37

Thanks very much for this post. theHandpuppet May 2014 #43

Here, read this: trotsky May 2014 #14

That post should be bronzed, and nailed to the masthead of the religion forum. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #17

Agreed. trotsky May 2014 #20

I've tried envisioning exactly what the forum would look like if we were nerve-stapled... Act_of_Reparation May 2014 #32

No need to even envision skepticscott May 2014 #34

I've dipped my toe into the Religion forum just once. theHandpuppet May 2014 #45

oh, it would look exactly like the inyourfaiths forum. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #69

What I would like to see, and this is not a demand, but would help, is AtheistCrusader May 2014 #16

One nitpick: trotsky May 2014 #19

Oh wow, good fact check. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #21

in fact the "niche claim" is that demons don't exist. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #68

Here's a place to start jeff47 May 2014 #22

Ugh. Iggo May 2014 #24

Since you have a thread about this here and in interfaith LostOne4Ever May 2014 #33

Do you think that would be productive? Htom Sirveaux May 2014 #44

Depends on what you are wanting to get from these threads LostOne4Ever May 2014 #48

The most sensible thing skepticscott May 2014 #50

You have a good point there LostOne4Ever May 2014 #51

Given the lack of substantive responses by the OP, I am concerned that... trotsky May 2014 #58

I was under the impression that the safe haven aspect Htom Sirveaux May 2014 #59

No one said you weren't allowed in here at all skepticscott May 2014 #61

I've decided to go with a post in religion, which is forthcoming. n/t Htom Sirveaux May 2014 #60

It's rather amusing that in the Interfaith thread skepticscott May 2014 #49

I missed that LostOne4Ever May 2014 #52

Aw sweet, I made the 'persona non-grata' list for a couple of them! AtheistCrusader May 2014 #53

Welcome to the club! trotsky May 2014 #54

At least one person in that thread Rob H. May 2014 #55

What's amusing is this whole "we're unable to respond and that's unfair" schtick Act_of_Reparation May 2014 #56

And what was especially ironic skepticscott May 2014 #57

we are horrible people. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #63

Didn't you know? skepticscott May 2014 #67

A little consistency would go a long way toward making some posters look a lot less hypocritical Rob H. May 2014 #41

Well fucking put. n/t trotsky May 2014 #42

Thanks Rob H. May 2014 #70

I'm curious as to why you refer to us as "skeptics" when we are atheists. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #62

It was the most general term I could think of to capture Htom Sirveaux May 2014 #64

the general term is "atheist". Warren Stupidity May 2014 #65

Fair enough. Htom Sirveaux May 2014 #66