Atheists & Agnostics
In reply to the discussion: Skeptics, a question from a believer? [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)a little less apologia when someone points out a problem like, religious morals being implemented in law, or lobbied for, in the US, around abortion, same sex marriage, family planning, adoption, end of life decisions, suing to block the implementation of Obamacare/ACA, etc.
I understand that there is some question of how much of these issues are locally cultural, and how much are religious, but when we can demonstrate a correlation between a particular faith and the political agenda under discussion, in a country where some 60-70% identify as that superset of 'christian', hearing 'not all believers are like that' is pretty frustrating. Ok, fine, not all. But enough that it puts these social issues at grave risk. Swings elections, sways legislators.
It would also be nice to see, just an acknowledgement, that religion carries baggage. For instance, the exorcism thing. It's brought out by a belief in a niche claim by only some Christians; that demons can possess or inhabit people and influence them. There is a genuine connection between that sort of idea, and the means in which some people suffering from some psychosis, lash out. Even if it's just an inspiration, and the core problem is that the person in question needs serious mental health care that isn't primarily caused by religion, the beliefs in supernatural stuff, like demons, channels behavior, inspires action. I've seen that hand-waved away a lot when people who have done terrible things to themselves and others specifically cite it as a reason, and again, that is incredibly frustrating.