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Act_of_Reparation

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18. Our ally, the Saudi government, is not representative of the Saudi people
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:05 AM
Sep 2014

House Saud effectively consolidated its power in 1744 with the Diriyah agreement, in which Muhammed bin Saud won the support of Muhammed ibn Abd al-Wahhab in return for promising Wahhabi clerics complete control over all religious matters within Saud's state. Despite multiple invasions and occupations, this agreement is still on the books.

Though the family is too large to generalize, those members of House Saud in the highest echelons of power are markedly more progressive than the Wahhabis who still have near-absolute control over the nation's moral standards. The royal family largely wants to fulfill Abdulaziz ibn Saud's dream of making Saudi Arabia an influential world player, and realize that the clerics' strict adherence to medieval interpretations of Islam are holding the nation back (this is why the government-controlled media has made sure no one outside the country gets a good look at one of their famed public beheadings... they know it would embarrass them). But, at the same time, the royal family realizes that these clerics are really the only thing holding the country together. If they piss the clerics off, they will lose their support, and the same jokers who turned the terrorists loose on the United States could do the same to them.

Contrary to what some suspect, we aren't being played here... at least not by the government. They are basically walking a tightrope between doing what's in the best interest of the country (moving them forward into the global economy) and trying to satisfy a class of regressive, intolerant clerics who would rather the nation split back up into its respective tribes and retreat to the desert to subsist on dates and camel milk.

So, I think you'll find the Saud family wants the terrorists gone every bit as much as we do. As per the pact established between our nations near the end of the Second World War, the royal family relies on the United States for income and protection. Without that, they are totally fucked. The problem is, despite being pretty much absolutist, there isn't a whole lot they can do about it, because, as noted, the clerics command greater respect from workaday Saudis than does the government.

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This link was given to me in another thread: trotsky Sep 2014 #1
thanks. I just read that article, but... RussBLib Sep 2014 #3
Here's how I see it: trotsky Sep 2014 #17
Bear in mind that the original Arab Spring CJCRANE Sep 2014 #2
As a former resident of Muslim countries I'll try, but... onager Sep 2014 #4
"a few thousand years" RussBLib Sep 2014 #5
1. stop dancing at the end of their string. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #6
UAE’s first female fighter pilot likely dropping bombs on ISIS militants in Syria onager Sep 2014 #7
how will those poor ignorant ISIS fighters know who killed them? RussBLib Sep 2014 #8
In their videos it will always be the US. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #10
What we need is a whole squadron of women Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #12
Here you go... onager Sep 2014 #13
I salute them. Curmudgeoness Sep 2014 #20
it's probably better to have them killed by Muslim women and not American, French or British women RussBLib Oct 2014 #22
Put that alongside the fact that saudi money is at least partially funding isis. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #9
Put that alongside the fact that saudi money is at least partially funding isis. AlbertCat Sep 2014 #14
Our ally, the Saudi government, is not representative of the Saudi people Act_of_Reparation Sep 2014 #18
So, I think you'll find the Saud family wants.... AlbertCat Sep 2014 #19
what we can do is refuse to let anyone claim that they aren't islamic Lordquinton Sep 2014 #11
Disclaimer: I am woefully ignorant of the Middle east LostOne4Ever Sep 2014 #15
I think... NeoGreen Sep 2014 #16
Some book recommendations... onager Sep 2014 #21
Follow the oil Cartoonist Oct 2014 #23
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