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onager

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13. And an even simpler question...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jan 2015

Are gays in this country American citizens, like myself?

If so, they have the same rights that I do, period. Including the right to leave property to their loved ones when they die...which doesn't necessarily mean their gay-hating relatives in East Jesus, Mississippi who unfortunately outlived them.

I used to work with a couple of atheist Republicans. They felt the same way - who marries who is no damn business of the State. They believed the same way about abortion, and generally hated the Religious Right. Which they mostly considered a giant festering boil on the fat white ass of the Republican party.

We argued a lot more about stuff like the Michael Newdow "Pledge" lawsuit than we ever did about gay rights or abortion. As we often read right here on DU, they considered such lawsuits frivolous and a waste of resources.

These Republicans lived in California, so maybe that makes a difference.

e.g., arch-conservative Ray Hoiles was the founder/publisher of the Orange County Register, the biggest right-wing newspaper in California for many years.

At the height of the Vietnam War, Hoiles horrified his fellow rightists by coming out against the military draft, which he called "slavery." He also wanted all drug laws eliminated, because the State has no business telling citizens which drugs they can use.

OFF-TOPIC, the Second Nativity!!! Today is Elvis Presley's birthday, and Turner Classic Movies is showing his movies all day long.

Still being jet-lagged, I got up at 5:00 AM this morning and tuned in. Currently watching "It Happened At The World's Fair." With a 10-year-old Kurt Russell in a bit part. And a cute little Asian girl, Vicky Tiu, who grew up to be the First Lady of Hawaii.

Yeah, I know, stupid waste of time. But my mother was (and is) a big Elvis fan, so these movies are part of my childhood. Like measles and whooping cough...

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If the state is in the marriage business at all, it should be open to all (assuming consent, age, kelly1mm Jan 2015 #1
You mentioned 'number of partners' Neon Gods Jan 2015 #8
number of partners Kevin from WI Jan 2015 #10
Here is what I found on the interwebz: LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #2
you're fast! RussBLib Jan 2015 #3
Some interesting statistics there JDDavis Jan 2015 #9
I voted "yes"....BUT.... AlbertCat Jan 2015 #4
What I gather from your post Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #14
Marriage is not a sacrament. It's a legal status. AlbertCat Jan 2015 #18
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If your interest is "between atheist/agnostic Democrats and believer Democrats" why aren't... brooklynite Jan 2015 #6
Absolutely yes Rob H. Jan 2015 #7
No atheist would vote against freedom, would they? JDDavis Jan 2015 #11
It's already legal in all provinces of Canada. Rainforestgoddess Jan 2015 #12
And an even simpler question... onager Jan 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #15
I need to practice better comprehension RussBLib Jan 2015 #16
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Congratulations JDDavis Jan 2015 #20
Awesome! trotsky Jan 2015 #21
On a site like this, such a poll might be meaningless, ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #22
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