Atheists & Agnostics

Curmudgeoness

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23. It is always a long journey.

Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:56 PM

Jan 2015

Getting to the point where you are willing to turn your back on all the things that they fed you from when you were young is not easy. The church that I went to was not what I would call liberal (United Presbyterians were always the conservative uptight sorts), but my family was not particularly religious either. In my early teens, I got involved in the first of the nondenominational born again groups, and that is where I started to do a lot of Bible reading. By my late teens, I had sorted out a lot of my problems with what I had been reading in the Bible and all the contradictions, and knew that I did not believe that it was the word of God. It still took years for me to accept the word "atheist" though. The journey was not easy and did take a long time, but looking back, I knew much earlier than I was willing to admit.

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Women are not permitted to speak in churches 1 Corinthians 14:35 [View all] Kevin from WI Jan 2015 OP

I was raised in a WELS church and this 'rule' being enforced was the straw that broke my mom's back. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #1

Pretty sure most Quaker meetings have always ignored this. eShirl Jan 2015 #2

Pure Paul Stuckinthebush Jan 2015 #28

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The BEST kind of fist fights... Stuckinthebush Jan 2015 #33

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That seems like a long way around to decide to ignore some passages. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #6

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Oh, I know. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #9

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Simple edhopper Jan 2015 #4

"Religion evolves..." ??? FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #21

my questions are RussBLib Jan 2015 #5

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Wow, this is so true! DawgHouse Jan 2015 #30

They ignore that verse, and quote Galatians 3:28 onager Jan 2015 #11

I cannot answer how liberal Christian women feel about this, Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #12

"I cannot believe that some god would create women with a brain and not allow her to use it..." CrispyQ Jan 2015 #13

A lecture on faith! Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #14

That's pretty much what I took away from Confirmation, too - our way of believing is better. CrispyQ Jan 2015 #15

Would you desribe your background as Liberal Christian? LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #17

Not at this point in my life. Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #19

I ask because I think it took me longer to rise to reason LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #20

It is always a long journey. Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #23

One of the main reasons my Mom left the church Lordquinton Jan 2015 #16

It is allegory. You can't take things in the bible literally. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #18

really means: Jesus loves me. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #22

"Get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich." Tobin S. Jan 2015 #24

You can't take things in the bible literally, Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #25

just the indefensible odious bullshit if you are a "liberal" christian. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #26

I have long conversations with one Christian who believes LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #27

Muslims will tell you the same thing onager Jan 2015 #31

The parts of the Bible they like are "divinely inspired" Act_of_Reparation Jan 2015 #32

I wish they had the guts to edit out the bad stuff. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #34