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A HERETIC I AM

(24,872 posts)
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 09:52 AM Feb 2012

One thing I have known for a long time was just reaffirmed. It's OK to condemn someone.... [View all]

to an eternity of anguish, burning, torture and pain, but saying "Fuck You" is "over the top".

It is especially OK if that condemnation is wrapped in the sweetest of cloaked language.

There is damned little difference between telling someone that "one day your knees will bow" to telling them directly that they will burn forever and ever and ever because they are just an ignorant twat. But the thing is, if you tell them they will know god exists someday it is accepted a COMPLETELY normal behavior - decent in fact. Not just decent but kind and loving as well.

I am referring to this thread and my post # 209 which stood for 2 days before being hidden early this morning;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002244505

Here's the funny part - the "Jury decision" email I received;

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

It is not the religious fighting that is a concern. It is the repeated use of angry invective "Go fuck yourself. Hows that?" and "You are trying to help me, right? Fuck you." The argument would be fine without all the fuck you's--but that's a direct insult and should not be allowed to stand.


JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Feb 4, 2012, 01:29 AM, and voted 5-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I really had to think about this. The invectives are rude and unnecessary, but this subject tends to get people upset for some reason. I'm reluctantly leaving it.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Well even though the person he is responding to is being an ass hole so is this member...And two assholes just create twice the mess.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: A thoughtful contribution but I cannot condone the Dick Cheney impression.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: over the top and personal

Yup....it's OK to tell me that someday I will have to bow down to some dumbass, deluded dipshits god and infer that if I don't I will burn forever, but saying "Fuck You" is bad.

No wonder I have stayed out of that sort of debate in DU for so long.

BTW< This isn't just a complaint about DU either. Society at large feels pretty much the same way, as far as I can tell.

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Not sure what it is that you expect to happen.... hlthe2b Feb 2012 #1
Interesting point you raise. MarkCharles Feb 2012 #2
+1, n/t RKP5637 Feb 2012 #24
What else I found interesting about that thread... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #3
I cannot lie. PassingFair Feb 2012 #4
I saw your response before it was hidden Rob H. Feb 2012 #5
Just imagine if we atheists had some real HELL to threaten believers with!!!! MarkCharles Feb 2012 #6
Or, "Don't get pissed at ME, GAWD seddit! Get pissed at HIM!" n/t BiggJawn Feb 2012 #22
Hidden posts aren't deleted and people can click "show post" and read it Warpy Feb 2012 #7
I am not trying to excuse the behavior, but I am going to try to explain it according to my opinion. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #8
the whole forum... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #9
OK, Juror #5 is kind of funny PVnRT Feb 2012 #10
Though I agree with everything you said in your deleted post, Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #11
Why is it incumbent on atheists to seek the higher ground in discussion here? dmallind Feb 2012 #12
Because too many people, deep down, darkstar3 Feb 2012 #13
Well, I guess "You will all be Jesus's slaves" isn't against the rules. ChadwickHenryWard Feb 2012 #14
Perhaps... AlbertCat Feb 2012 #15
You knew what social norms you were violating. caseymoz Feb 2012 #16
What happened? Other than ending forced indoctrination of schoolkids? dmallind Feb 2012 #17
A little farther than cussing. caseymoz Feb 2012 #18
You made the claim pumpkin dmallind Feb 2012 #26
". . . and got distracted from her aim." caseymoz Feb 2012 #27
First of all, I don't find the "religion" itself, nauseating. Just its arrogant followers. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2012 #19
That's why I left DU for 6 years. BiggJawn Feb 2012 #21
No, I didn't say be polite to people wishing you an eternity of torture . . . caseymoz Feb 2012 #23
You need to tell them "I will PRAY for You!" BiggJawn Feb 2012 #20
it was actually late iron age bullshit Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #25
They act stunned when I tell them Jesus was a cruel, nasty badass. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #28
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