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LostOne4Ever

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9. It seems to me, that if I look up the term religion in five different sources
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 12:16 AM
Jan 2015

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]I will get 5 completely different definitions. There does not seem to be one commonly accepted definition.

Given that, I have tried to come up with my own definition. This is my current working definition:
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A way of experiencing or living life based upon some revealed truth about existence.

This revealed truth could be that there exists some deity/deities that has/have a list of dictates that one must follow unless one wishes to become a human smoore over eternal hellfire. Based upon this, and how they view said god(s), one can choose to live one's life in accord with these dictates or to oppose this/these god(s).

Or the revealed truth could be that there is a "rhythm", "flow", or "way" in which the universe works; and by either experiencing or living one's life in harmony (or discord) with said nature of the universe one can achieve good fortune, enlightenment, rebirth in a better world or class, nirvana, or some other desirable outcome.

Or many other examples. The important point being that there needs to be a revealed truths that lead to a certain worldview.



[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal] That said, it does seem to me that a lot of people think that holding any position one way or the other on the existence of deities qualifies as a religion.

That definition does not work for me.

First off, I completely reject the position that atheism (not believing in any gods) is in any way a religion. Similarly, I reject the idea that theism (
[font style="font-family:'Impact',''Lucida handwriting','forte',cursive;" size=4 color=crimson]ON ITS OWN[/font]) is a religion. If simply believing (or not beliving) in something makes it a religion, does that make me a panda-ist because I believe pandas exist? Conversely does that mean that by not believing in Leprechauns I have created a new religion? I think both those positions are ludicrous.

Secondly, that definition fails to take into account all the non-theistic religions in the world. Several versions of eastern religions like Buddhism, Taoism, and Jainism don't really require a belief in gods, yet they are just as real of religions as Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism.

I came up with this definition because it takes non-theistic religions into account just as well as the traditional fire-and-brimstone religions; while emphasizing the themes I feel all religions have in common.

Of course, this is all my opinion and I get that I could be wrong or that someone might disagree.
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What is religion? [View all] Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 OP
The one thing they all have in common... truebrit71 Jan 2015 #1
It seems to me that it isn't just the newer religions, Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #5
Religion is a belief in an all-powerful entity or spirit Panich52 Jan 2015 #2
The point is..... Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #4
But only Christians of a particular 'flavor' Panich52 Jan 2015 #18
eh its a living olddots Jan 2015 #3
Yep. bvf Jan 2015 #7
I tend to think of it as a doctrine of stupidity by committee. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #6
Religious beliefs don't have to be skepticscott Jan 2015 #8
And who is to say what is sincere? Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #11
It seems to me, that if I look up the term religion in five different sources LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #9
You make some excellent points Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #12
Similarly, I reject the idea that theism (ON ITS OWN) is a religion. AlbertCat Feb 2015 #24
It seems that being a pastafarian is unacceptable to our religiously afflicted friends. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #10
That is the point.... Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #13
It is too bad that religions that are not mainstream are always being ridiculed by others of faith. AlbertCat Feb 2015 #25
I like Ambrose Bierce's definition. onager Jan 2015 #14
So..... Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #15
is Pastafarianism a religion AlbertCat Feb 2015 #28
what is faith guillaumeb Jan 2015 #16
It would be a wonderful world Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #17
agreed guillaumeb Jan 2015 #19
That was why I struggled for the right word Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #20
Original intent guillaumeb Jan 2015 #21
Welcome from me, too. mr blur Jan 2015 #22
Politicians or religious leaders? guillaumeb Jan 2015 #23
and for some reason, they often do. AlbertCat Feb 2015 #27
Do you really think it is inevitable? Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #29
Didn't our founding fathers decide that this was not something that would happen here? AlbertCat Feb 2015 #30
Yes, AlbertCat, that is true. Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #31
can we not all be right for ourselves alone? AlbertCat Feb 2015 #26
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