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Beearewhyain

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186. FYI...

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 01:38 PM

Feb 2015

On Mon Feb 16, 2015, 12:11 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Every sailor knows you don't take a starboard tack in rough seas.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1230&pid=35988

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This poster, with no evidence but snark, is calling one poster a sock of Starboard Tack, a poster cleanhippe routinely attacks. In one post he's accusing two members of being a sock of the other.

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Time for atheists to take a hard look at ourselves [View all] phantom power Feb 2015 OP

Oh it's entirely possible he did it because he hates Muslims. trotsky Feb 2015 #1

Sorry, already sick of cowardly atheists skepticscott Feb 2015 #2

Yes...yes and yeeessssss amuse bouche Feb 2015 #30

nope, won't do it, hollysmom Feb 2015 #3

Are atheists JUST atheists? AlbertCat Feb 2015 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #5

The spin I am seeing from others now is... trotsky Feb 2015 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #15

But it also doesn't have any doctrines NOT to murder therefore it's responsible that way!' AlbertCat Feb 2015 #107

Again with the admonitions that we should just shush. LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #6

Sorry, there are enough anti-atheist people round here, mr blur Feb 2015 #7

there are two more recs Lordquinton Feb 2015 #27

I've seen some real anti-muslim full on ignorant racism here Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #9

Only if your being myopic and reductionist to an absurd degree. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #12

If you want to see what absurd looks like... cleanhippie Feb 2015 #112

Muslim is not a race. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #18

They used the coded language of racism to talk about brown people, shoe fits they are racist. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #29

Please provide links for statements on DU that you consider examples Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #55

That would be a call out and aginst TOS. But the racist stupidity is strong here nuf said? Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #58

call outs are not against the TOS. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #63

"racist stupidity is strong here" ? RussBLib Feb 2015 #68

As I said they used the coded language of racism to talk about brown people. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #69

still seeking evidence RussBLib Feb 2015 #70

Asking for evidence of something that is omnipresent is disturbing and problematic in itself. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #75

this is why I asked you what "here" meant RussBLib Feb 2015 #86

One of the links was to an AA thread.But yes it isn't even close to as bad here as the rest of DU Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #87

Those are some pretty serious accusations. trotsky Feb 2015 #71

Here are a few gems from DU Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #73

"ISIS scumbags" trotsky Feb 2015 #74

There are also posts saying savages and barabrians, don't cherry pick. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #76

OK then you need to link to specific posts. trotsky Feb 2015 #78

I'll then use you as my example. Using the term barbarian to describe brown people is racist. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #90

For over 2000 years, white people have also been calling white people barbarians muriel_volestrangler Feb 2015 #172

Wow. That is some weak sauce. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #81

Link 1: Post 1 try looking with your eyes next time. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #91

I think Clarence Thomas is a scumbag EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #94

Point me to the racist people. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #83

Post 78 right here, using the term barbarian to describe people of color is always racist. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #93

I've only seen one person use the term 'savage' around here, and that person is not an atheist. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #96

Always? Why? Because YOU say so? skepticscott Feb 2015 #98

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #103

The word "barbarian" has far older roots than that skepticscott Feb 2015 #105

You can pretend the last 500 years didn't happen AlbertCat Feb 2015 #108

you do know that some members of isis are just plain old white, right? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #99

If it's "racist" to call ISIS terrorists barbarians, what would you prefer we call them? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #101

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #102

You know what I think? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #104

This was interesting.... AlbertCat Feb 2015 #109

Don't know if you remember the kerfuffle here at DU about the word niggardly EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #110

Didn't see that, but it doesn't surprise me skepticscott Feb 2015 #115

+1000 skepticscott Feb 2015 #114

Just wanted to mention that atheists don't fare well in those areas either. LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #122

Post 78 is not racist in the least. Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #113

As I said they used the coded language of racism to talk about brown people. AlbertCat Feb 2015 #106

Check back to the Bill Maher/Ben Affleck discussions Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #123

Hey Bobby, could you provide a link and cite some specific examples? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #129

No, problem, Betty...I got an example right here. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #132

It depends how one criticizes Islam cpwm17 Feb 2015 #137

Robby, that person is referring to beliefs and not to people EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #138

Betty, she condemns everybody who subscribes to Islam. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #141

For a newcomer, your knowledge of things here is skepticscott Feb 2015 #142

Think harder, skeptic Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #145

Oh look, it's free-association hour in the Prewitt household EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #148

Personal attack? Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #150

You do understand that's a signature, right? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #167

Your desire to do your homework before posting skepticscott Feb 2015 #163

I agree to a point. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #164

Ah yes...and you probably find the use of the word skepticscott Feb 2015 #165

Are you always so dramatic? Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #169

Do you always misrepresent what other people say? skepticscott Feb 2015 #173

Welcome to DU... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #174

Yes, and some folk have their self-righteous campaign skepticscott Feb 2015 #197

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #176

Laundry day in Mexico, ST? cleanhippie Feb 2015 #177

Yes, you did. You 'misrepresented' my words. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #180

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #181

lol, profanity isn't vulgar or 'frenzied' to me. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #182

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #183

So serious! PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #184

Funny that our little friend skepticscott Feb 2015 #196

I knew it wouldn't last. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #198

I'm sure he's out there right now skepticscott Feb 2015 #199

There are so many quotes from "What About Bob?" that are running through my head now. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #200

I'm not sure, Bob, if you're being serious EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #144

Im not sure, Betty, if you're being serious Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #147

We haven't had anything to talk about since you first jumped into the conversation EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #149

No, n00b, I criticized "it", the ideology. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #146

Don't hurt my feelings...:) Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #152

You pointed out what I said and you were wrong on "implied". PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #161

I was asolutely right about what you said and implied. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #162

What is/was your other/previous name here? You've obviously been banned or locked out of this thread PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #168

Good night. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #170

Enjoy your short stay. mr blur Feb 2015 #175

Every sailor knows you don't take a starboard tack in rough seas. cleanhippie Feb 2015 #179

FYI... Beearewhyain Feb 2015 #186

Yes, it seems he's gone skepticscott Feb 2015 #195

Did he come here on a boat? Lordquinton Feb 2015 #171

Look at the blocked memebers list for this group... cleanhippie Feb 2015 #178

All religions are poisonous. nt valerief Feb 2015 #11

So what if it was all about religion Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #16

This. trotsky Feb 2015 #17

Anybody else checked Hicks' "likes" on Facebook? onager Feb 2015 #19

I didn't notice until just now that the piece in the OP came from Raw Story. trotsky Feb 2015 #20

Yeah, fuck them. Goblinmonger Feb 2015 #21

Bill and Neil need to denounce him immediately! progressoid Feb 2015 #22

there is something weird about neo-atheism that particularly targets Muslims La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #23

gee, do you think it might have something to do with.... RussBLib Feb 2015 #24

no, i think its bigotry. FGM has existed long before Islam La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #26

Oh really! We have Christian preachers across the country preaching a pro-war message cpwm17 Feb 2015 #28

What a load of crap. onager Feb 2015 #32

My point stands cpwm17 Feb 2015 #33

The poster made no such claim. onager Feb 2015 #34

I didn't mention anything about any racists posts here. cpwm17 Feb 2015 #35

my only point is that today's radical Muslims.... RussBLib Feb 2015 #41

I think you Gelliebeans Feb 2015 #53

It has reached meme status. trotsky Feb 2015 #37

You are totally right Gelliebeans Feb 2015 #56

Honestly, Gelliebeans, that is way over the line. trotsky Feb 2015 #72

I think its because the old meme, AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #118

If the religionistas had to actually provide evidence skepticscott Feb 2015 #120

Do you think we could stop condemning groups for their horrid members? Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #124

+1000 cpwm17 Feb 2015 #125

Is your a picture an example of people promoting hatred against an individual? Lordquinton Feb 2015 #127

I'm an atheist cpwm17 Feb 2015 #131

So you double down on mischaractizing Lordquinton Feb 2015 #135

In things that really matter the most, Sam Harris supports the wars against Muslims cpwm17 Feb 2015 #140

I couldn't have said it better. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #153

Have you read the pinned post about faitheists? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #154

Faitheist, huh? Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #159

It's not an "article" EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #192

Really? Color me shocked. Goblinmonger Feb 2015 #155

Sean Carroll isn't allowed? Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #160

Thank you cpwm17 Feb 2015 #188

But you feel the need to baselessly attack him to do so Lordquinton Feb 2015 #166

If you think that you have defended Sam Harris, I can't help you. cpwm17 Feb 2015 #185

What does the phrase "unconscionable act of self-defense" mean to you? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #189

More deranged racist B/S from Sam Harris. cpwm17 Feb 2015 #187

Would you consider the organization that just beheaded 20+ migrant workers in Libya Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #190

Can you defend your indefensible mischaracterization of the out-of-context Harris quote? Gore1FL Feb 2015 #201

And will you also be advocating skepticscott Feb 2015 #128

The Republican Party is not the same thing as "Muslims" Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #130

They are both "groups" and "groups" were the subject of your demand skepticscott Feb 2015 #133

I said "groups" as in "groups of individuals." Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #134

Ah, so it's our fault that Hicks killed three people? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #156

Nice delusion. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #158

I think there is something about American culture Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #25

neo-atheists? uriel1972 Feb 2015 #36

That is the new way to condemn atheists Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #40

Adorable cats! And they are atheists, too! JDDavis Feb 2015 #42

Cats aren't atheists; they know they're the true Gods arcane1 Feb 2015 #157

OMG, you are the worst kind of atheist! Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #43

Aw, only time? But they're such handsome kitties! Rob H. Feb 2015 #89

Yup, that "definition" is dead on. trotsky Feb 2015 #47

There is middle ground. Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #136

I don't disagree that we can respect each other's belief Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #139

Complete agreement Robert Prewitt Feb 2015 #143

1. i am an atheist. 2. just because you have not heard something La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #49

I was not criticising you... uriel1972 Feb 2015 #85

Before your post, the only time I've heard the term "neo-atheist" used EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #92

There definitely is. trotsky Feb 2015 #38

Please post all the links for "new" atheist leaders calling for the killing of religious people. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #44

did i say that? i said i found their islam focused atheism troubling. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #46

The focus is on religious people acting on their religious beliefs and doing really shitty things Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #50

again please dont deliberately misconstrue what i said to suit your argument. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #51

So what is it exactly that "neo" atheist leaders are saying that you think motivated this person? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #54

either in your great desire to attack me, you didn't read the article or my response to it La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #57

Or option 3. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #59

and what exactly would that option be? La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #60

Your not the lady I was refering too. I think you should have added a third option to you post. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #61

sorry to snap at you. i was really not intending to 'attack atheists' La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #62

ok. so I'm 'the lady". Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #65

I'm not a garbage man, I don't need to go though the trash you post, see too much as is. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #66

So you've accused me of being a racist bigot, you have nothing to back that up Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #67

I'm not a garbage man, but I'll call out your racism as it appears from now on fair? Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #77

You've called me a racist bigot. Put up or apologize. Do the honorable thing. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #79

How did you do on the test, are you? Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #80

you're babbling. Good show. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #82

Did you take the test, or are you afraid about what you may find out about yourself? Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #88

So in other words, you call someone a "racist bigot" skepticscott Feb 2015 #100

Have you ever actually read Hamlet? mr blur Feb 2015 #97

The question to ask is why? Is it bigotry? Nevernose Feb 2015 #191

I'm anti-theist to the bone amuse bouche Feb 2015 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #193

This writer is no atheist. JNelson6563 Feb 2015 #45

Even being banned from the group - or DU itself! - for their horrible behavior... trotsky Feb 2015 #48

Excuse me! AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #84

It is my understanding that Adolph Hitler loved to drink milk ... Trajan Feb 2015 #52

Fuck Rawstory EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #95

Yes, this is very true. JNelson6563 Feb 2015 #111

Is this a problem? Bradical79 Feb 2015 #116

how did we get a thread in here with more posts than the entire interfaith front page? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #117

Because there are more than two us here. I mean, wow, just wow! mr blur Feb 2015 #119

And self-examination actually goes on in here. skepticscott Feb 2015 #121

I took a hard look at myself in the mirror today; JDDavis Feb 2015 #126

Me too! Rainforestgoddess Feb 2015 #194