One thing I have known for a long time was just reaffirmed. It's OK to condemn someone....

[caseymoz]

23. No, I didn't say be polite to people wishing you an eternity of torture . . .

. . . (That's the way I would put it rather than "condemn&quot all I'm saying is, you can't be surprised or complain if your post is removed. Apparently, you weren't. I misjudged here, being new. I thought that was the tone of your post.

I've boiled-over with ditch language before (my term for it, not "dirty language" but language used in a knock-down, drag out brawl "in a ditch&quot and my messages were removed. I pretty much thought that would likely happen, but being able to express myself that way was satisfying enough.

If they've read it and they turn to the authorities to remove the message, you've taken them down a notch. They had to show you they were in charge, at least as far as customs are concerned.

I think you might find the religion nauseating: "But telling me with a wink and a nod that I'll 'get it someday' whatever that '"it"' is and knowing full well the entire motif behind that idea - the torture for the wicked, the reward of eternal paradise for the '"saved"' etc, - is chock full of the most horrific, nasty, terrible, nightmarish atrocities, is all.....well.....perfectly acceptable."

I'm not trying to gloat here. Since the religion was created by the believers (and mutated over the ages through the work of later believers), not established by God, then if you find the believers nauseating, the religion is nauseating.

I can't really separate the two. The believers and the religion are different, but the religion is more like yesterday's believers. They're both obnoxious and nauseating in different ways according to how customs and interpretations have changed.