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dmallind

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5. No it doesn't, and since when are there only two options?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 02:52 PM
Feb 2012

Or three to be accurate to the analogy. That's nothing more than warmed over Pascal's Wagerism. There are hundreds of religions on earth. There have been thousands. If you bet on Allah, you will get no reward if Buddha was right. If you bet on Jesus, no luck if Guru Nanak had it nailed. The idea that it's "my god or no god" is irrational special pleading and absurdly parochial.

Lacking belief in X is not at all the same as being firm in the belief that there is a total absence of X. I do not believe the Cubs will win the World Series, but at a prima facie 30s to 1 shot that's not even all that improbable. Even if you consider history and make them 100s-1 it's still many many times more likely than a random Powerball ticket winning, and one does so every few days or weeks. But I utterly lack all semblance of a belief that they will win, and I know for sure they both exist and will try.

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No. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #1
Before confusion engulfs this discussion ... Boojatta Feb 2012 #2
I am not saying one way or the other what belief or lack of belief that you have. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #4
No it doesn't, and since when are there only two options? dmallind Feb 2012 #5
Excellent point. And you are right. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #6
Isolating the problem that provoked "Bleah" ... Boojatta Feb 2012 #8
That is enough to be an atheist. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #9
Nope - lack of belief is all. Firm belief in absence just makes you dmallind Feb 2012 #10
FYI, I just served on a jury for your comment here. laconicsax Feb 2012 #11
Thanks. nt Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #17
Wow, just wow EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #19
What is enough to be an atheist? Boojatta Feb 2012 #12
Absolutely - but need more info dmallind Feb 2012 #3
Re belief versus probability assessment Boojatta Feb 2012 #7
When the enraged parishioners come with the ropes and the bonfires, you'll fit right in. dimbear Feb 2012 #13
Again, your question is flawed. There is theism and there is A-theism, and thats it. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #14
"probability, which is in essence, knowledge" Boojatta Feb 2012 #15
I didn't claim that there's a middle ground. Boojatta Feb 2012 #16
No n/t marginlized Feb 2012 #18
Do you have merely a suspicion that Boojatta Feb 2012 #26
Since the 50% number is pulled directly from your ass EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #20
Before something is believed by Boojatta Feb 2012 #22
"Before something is believed by anybody, it has to be conceived by somebody." EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #23
Until it is conceived, it doesn't enter Boojatta Feb 2012 #24
The easiest way to see the practical application of all this is to remember that for the dimbear Feb 2012 #21
I file that in the Agnostic category. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #25
Any percentage higher than zero and lower than 100 is irrelevant to your question. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #27
This reminds me of the liar paradox Boojatta Feb 2012 #28
Kick laconicsax Mar 2012 #29
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