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dimbear

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21. The easiest way to see the practical application of all this is to remember that for the
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:16 AM
Feb 2012

great majority of recorded history, atheism has been a crime. Often a capital crime. Only recently and in the more liberal nations has it been decriminalized, here in the US atheism is only what is called a legal deficit, i.e. it has some unpleasant legal consequences but it cannot be prosecuted in and of itself.

Harken back to an earlier time. Imagine Boojatta in the dock charged with atheism, a la Socrates and other philosophers. His defense, of course, is that he is 50 per cent innocent. The prosecutor would reply that if Boojatta had a better defense he would offer it, ergo Boojatta will......... suffer.



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No. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #1
Before confusion engulfs this discussion ... Boojatta Feb 2012 #2
I am not saying one way or the other what belief or lack of belief that you have. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #4
No it doesn't, and since when are there only two options? dmallind Feb 2012 #5
Excellent point. And you are right. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #6
Isolating the problem that provoked "Bleah" ... Boojatta Feb 2012 #8
That is enough to be an atheist. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #9
Nope - lack of belief is all. Firm belief in absence just makes you dmallind Feb 2012 #10
FYI, I just served on a jury for your comment here. laconicsax Feb 2012 #11
Thanks. nt Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #17
Wow, just wow EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #19
What is enough to be an atheist? Boojatta Feb 2012 #12
Absolutely - but need more info dmallind Feb 2012 #3
Re belief versus probability assessment Boojatta Feb 2012 #7
When the enraged parishioners come with the ropes and the bonfires, you'll fit right in. dimbear Feb 2012 #13
Again, your question is flawed. There is theism and there is A-theism, and thats it. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #14
"probability, which is in essence, knowledge" Boojatta Feb 2012 #15
I didn't claim that there's a middle ground. Boojatta Feb 2012 #16
No n/t marginlized Feb 2012 #18
Do you have merely a suspicion that Boojatta Feb 2012 #26
Since the 50% number is pulled directly from your ass EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #20
Before something is believed by Boojatta Feb 2012 #22
"Before something is believed by anybody, it has to be conceived by somebody." EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2012 #23
Until it is conceived, it doesn't enter Boojatta Feb 2012 #24
The easiest way to see the practical application of all this is to remember that for the dimbear Feb 2012 #21
I file that in the Agnostic category. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #25
Any percentage higher than zero and lower than 100 is irrelevant to your question. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #27
This reminds me of the liar paradox Boojatta Feb 2012 #28
Kick laconicsax Mar 2012 #29
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