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onager

(9,356 posts)
16. And if you really want to piss 'em off...
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:17 AM
May 2012

You can get into WHY it might have been that JC didn't mention homosexuality.

Accordng to our only evidence, the Buy-bull: he was an unmarried Jewish male in his 30s, at a time when that would have been very unusual in his community. He hung around almost exclusively with men.

That's not the only eyebrow-raiser about JC, if we look at him the way we would anybody else, and not thru the Krazy Khristian Kaleidoscope.

He didn't seem to like his mother very much and often treated her with contempt. In general JC seemed to have issues with women. Let's not forget that charming story about him healing a Gentile woman while comparing her to a dog. Yes, there was that whole saved-a-woman-from-stoning thing. But using the all-important IN CONTEXT reasoning, he seems to have done that mostly to piss off his religio-political enemies.

Jesus also seems to have been one of the originial Welfare Queens. Apparently he gave up a good, solid career in carpentry to wander around Judea with his doting all-male entourage, shooting off his mouth about a lot of metaphysical hokum.

That also goes for his disciples, who gave up their own good jobs. And often come across in the NT as a bunch of lazy, violent and fairly dim-witted sods.

How did these people live? JC himself seems to have mooched off the meager earnings of Mary Magdalene. We know of that one case where he rather loftily dissed poor people, and suggested that some expensive oil be used on himself, rather than being sold to help the poor.

As we cranky non-believers often point out, he's a real One-Size-Fits-All Messiah. You can use his alleged sayings to justify anything from communism to all-out free-market capitalism, from gay rights to gay bashing. Amazing.

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Sounds like dinner with my father Rittermeister May 2012 #1
It all pretty much comes down to the Golden Rule. MrModerate May 2012 #2
That is the essence of Christian privilege in the U.S.A. nt daaron May 2012 #3
Tell them from what you have read in the Bible Angry Dragon May 2012 #4
Christians will happily tell you that religion made a lot of progress between the OT and the NT. dimbear May 2012 #5
The problem with that is that the sayings attributed to Jesus are not consistent. Manifestor_of_Light May 2012 #6
A question for cynatnite DrKPhd May 2012 #7
Yep, I used the crazy laws... cynatnite May 2012 #8
"For the times" DrKPhd May 2012 #9
I don't think the Old Testament has the relevancy today that it once had. pacalo May 2012 #10
Well, yes and no... WillParkinson May 2012 #11
I love your answer, Will! pacalo May 2012 #28
They cry wolf and say you are trying to tell them how to live when it is them who are trying to... liberal N proud May 2012 #12
I've had limited success with the following three approaches when dealing with folks like that. trotsky May 2012 #13
This is one of those times I wish we could rec individual posts Rob H. May 2012 #15
And if you really want to piss 'em off... onager May 2012 #16
And if you really REALLY want to piss 'em off... daaron May 2012 #17
"Forcing them to accept homosexuality?" eqfan592 May 2012 #14
Very well said. daaron May 2012 #18
I am now taking bets OriginalGeek May 2012 #19
Ooops! daaron May 2012 #20
Uh-oh. Now I might've implied believers are like children. daaron May 2012 #21
Whoa! Now I might've implied that I like believers better than atheists. daaron May 2012 #22
lol, you were right from the start OriginalGeek May 2012 #23
Whew! Thx. nt daaron May 2012 #24
Great argument with yourself, daaron! nt Curmudgeoness May 2012 #26
I think you said it well...... Curmudgeoness May 2012 #25
You're not "forcing" them to do anything. BiggJawn May 2012 #27
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