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Starboard Tack

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22. I'm not saying that the discrimination doesn't exist
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:07 PM
Jun 2012

I'm just saying that fear of discrimination is not what I think motivates Obama, if in fact, he is a closet non-believer, which is in doubt and ultimately nobody's business. I think his style is more positive. He thinks about those he can win over, not those he might lose. He's a politician. A politician doesn't usually win without pandering. The only one I can think of who didn't pander was Trudeau. Tony Blair waited until he left number 10 before converting to Catholicism. Disraeli converted from Judaism to Protestant Christian. It could be translated as being afraid of discrimination, or about understanding the rules of the game and what needs to be done to win. Atheism is not an option for a presidential candidate in this country - yet. Neither is gun control. Neither is being gay. Hopefully, we aren't too far away from those things. There are more important things right now than worry about our president's spiritual beliefs.

His lack of support for DOMA and the overturn of DADT Warpy Jun 2012 #1
I agree with both you and Warpy on this. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #2
Those are great sentiments. laconicsax Jun 2012 #3
Maybe he wants to be re-elected Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #4
That's a rhetorical question, right? :) nt daaron Jun 2012 #5
Duh! Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #10
My word, Starboard Tack, are you acknowledging that non-believers are widely discriminated against? laconicsax Jun 2012 #6
I guess I disagree here Rittermeister Jun 2012 #8
Astounding. laconicsax Jun 2012 #12
Sir, I respect you very much Rittermeister Jun 2012 #25
Me too. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #13
I don't know what running for president has to do with Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #9
I don't think you've thought through what you just posted. laconicsax Jun 2012 #11
I don't see any contradiction. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #14
The contradiction is found here: laconicsax Jun 2012 #15
Yeah, I thought about it and see no contradiction. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #16
The fact that you don't see it shows a fundamental lack of understanding. laconicsax Jun 2012 #17
I'll let you know if and when I reach your level of enlightenment. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #18
Ummm.... eqfan592 Jun 2012 #19
It may seem to be contradictory. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #20
Ok, then answer this question: eqfan592 Jun 2012 #21
I'm not saying that the discrimination doesn't exist Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #22
And again you admit the discrimination while denying it! That's called contradiction. laconicsax Jun 2012 #23
So the way you see it is "don't tell the truth" because they won't vote for you if you do. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #24
Yes, it's different lenses that allow me to understand that it's discrimination. laconicsax Jun 2012 #27
Question ST EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2012 #28
I think all discrimination based on race, creed or gender is a problem Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #29
I can't think of a single national leader who publicly denounced religion. Neoplebe Jun 2012 #7
K&R bahrbearian Jun 2012 #26
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