Atheists & Agnostics

Starboard Tack

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16. Good to hear and I hope you are right.

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:21 AM

Jun 2012

I see thousands of scouts throughout the year, and in fact, I spoke to a couple of troop leaders this afternoon. Nice guys. Happy kids. I'm commenting on the past record of BSA, which until today has been anti-gay and is still, apparently anti-atheist, so forgive me if I remain somewhat skeptical. I'm sure the Vatican is upgrading it's monitoring too, but if I don't know the priest personally, my kid isn't going to be alone with him. Same with a scoutmaster, sorry. Don't get me wrong, I like them and the work they do, really.

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If Boy Scouts say OK to gay scouts, will they still leave out Atheists? [View all] salparadise1000 Jun 2012 OP

Since when did atheist equality matter? dmallind Jun 2012 #1

I can't imagine why anyone would encourage joining such an exclusive organization. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #2

I am not really sure what you mean by the "obvious concerns about pedophilia." ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #3

I think BSA has an ugly history of pedophilia among some of it's leaders. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #5

Naive about what? Are you saying that gay scout masters are more Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #6

WTF does being gay have to do with pedophilia. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #7

Nice job of attacking someone with a legitimate question... rexcat Jun 2012 #8

Thank you. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #9

He's used the exact same dishonesty to attack me in the past. trotsky Jun 2012 #18

Being gay has nothing to do with pedophilia, nor did I say it did so you can keep your tsk tsking Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #10

Ummm, it's pretty clear that he was not thinking that, but rather was questioning... eqfan592 Jun 2012 #49

Youth protection programs are strict and in place. Gore1FL Jun 2012 #13

Good to hear and I hope you are right. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #16

What do you mean by "putting the fox in charge of the chicken coop?" yardwork Jun 2012 #4

I thought that would be pretty obvious. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #15

Umm... laconicsax Jun 2012 #17

Are you serious? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #22

Why are gay kids more vulnerable to sexual predators than straight kids? yardwork Jun 2012 #23

They are not more vulnerable in general. I never said they were. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #31

Yes, others have often tried to make a connection between pedophilia and homosexuality. yardwork Jun 2012 #35

I agree 100% Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #38

You just said it again! laconicsax Jun 2012 #37

I think it is you that is implying a connection. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #39

You said gay kids and those with sexual identity problems Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #40

OK. Let me make this very simple for you. We'll paint by numbers and conect all the dots. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #42

I think the problem is that you keep making the connection while denying having done so. laconicsax Jun 2012 #43

Once again. Here is the connection. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #44

Thank you for finally admitting to making that connection. n/t laconicsax Jun 2012 #45

Admitted? I never denied making that connection. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #46

You should go back and read your original post EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2012 #47

You explicitly denied it in this very subthread. laconicsax Jun 2012 #48

That's OK. You win, I have to go bandage my ankle now. Enjoy. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #50

Then explain what you meant and why you said it. laconicsax Jun 2012 #41

Why would gay children be more at risk from pedophiles? yardwork Jun 2012 #20

Did I say they would be at more risk? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #24

Yes, that seemed to be your implication. Perhaps I misunderstood. yardwork Jun 2012 #34

"an organization that has less than stellar record when it comes to pedophilia" trotsky Jun 2012 #21

No, not at a greater rate than the general population Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #26

That's backing away from your earlier claims. trotsky Jun 2012 #28

Let's not be naive. Nobody wants a scandal, BSA or RCC. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #32

You were asked to provide evidence to back up your claims. trotsky Jun 2012 #33

What about the current youth protection program do you take issue with? Gore1FL Jun 2012 #14

I brought this up to a Scoutmaster friend... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2012 #11

I was an adult leader in the BSA for 7 years Gore1FL Jun 2012 #12

Good post, very informative! JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #19

Excellent! Thanks for sharing. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #30

Ditto... NeoGreen Jun 2012 #36

In either 2004 or 2008, a poll was done kdmorris Jun 2012 #25

One of last groups who you can openly detest salparadise1000 Jun 2012 #27

Well, they are generalizations I agree with kdmorris Jun 2012 #29