A Generous Offer to Dr. Huber -Turned Down (Reply #44)

In the discussion thread: Michael Pollan as GMO ‘denialist’ dupes credulous New York Times [View all]

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:10 PM

HuckleB (35,773 posts)

44. A Generous Offer to Dr. Huber -Turned Down

http://kfolta.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-generous-offer-to-dr-huber.html

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"I offer to sequence the genome of the pathogen and identify what it is," I said. "If Dr. Huber could kindly give me a small amount of the culture we could identify this new life form before Christmas."

I'm not bluffing here. We could do that. I could pay to have the libraries made and get several lanes of Illumina sequencing done in a few weeks. We'd get several hundred million 'reads' (small bits of data) that could be computationally assembled into a whole genome of his novel organism, if it actually existed. If it was real, we could have 300-fold coverage of its sequence. Completely do-able, and I'd pay for it.

"So can you send me cultures?" I asked.

What do you think his answer was? After a ten minute talk about the organism and how it is killing cattle and causing problems he said he would not send it.

I said, "Don, you say this is a crisis, that a new pathogen is causing disease in humans and plants, and you won't release it to the broader scientific community for eight years?"

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53 replies	Author	Time	Post
Michael Pollan as GMO ‘denialist’ dupes credulous New York Times [View all]	HuckleB	Oct 2013	OP
Ok, let's look to the scientists for safety of 'food additives,' where most are exposed to GMOs.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#1
Got Gish Gallop?	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#4
YOU: Reject Pollan on GMOs, not a scientist. ME: Fine. Read this knowing that GMOs = food additives.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#6
GMOs are not food additives.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#10
Food additives derived from GMO corn, GMO soy, GMO canola, GMO cottonseed are indeed 'GMOs.'	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#11
I said you were in la la land, and then you further prove it with your response.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#13
Check it out. Full text at link.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#15
And you continue with your Gish Gallop of unrelated nonsense.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#18
The science-based links are at odds with the business-based links. Got cognitive dissonance?	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#19
And you offer up another pseudoscience web site full of BS.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#20
SEE POST #1, please note depth and breadth of analysis of currently abysmal state of affairs.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#21
And you're off in another direction.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#22
Hardly. Here are all the links separated from the news aggregating sites you're so fond of dissing.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#23
That translates into a whole lotta recent science w zero relevance of personal attacks on M.Pollan.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#24
That translates into a bunch of nothing.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#25
This message was self-deleted by its author	proverbialwisdom	Jan 2014	#46
The update was to my own post which lit up the yellow tab for MY POSTS and linked to this old post.	proverbialwisdom	Jan 2014	#48
UPDATE.	proverbialwisdom	Jan 2014	#45
Woo Hoo! Let's update the way people spread anti-science fears!	HuckleB	Jan 2014	#53
PRESS RELEASE > Environmental Chemicals Harm Reproductive Health: Ob-Gyns Advocate for Policy Change	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#2
Age of Autism?	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#3
Nope, The American Society for Reproductive Medicine & The American College of Obstetricians and Gyn	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#7
You fail to understand that you're not discussing the OP.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#9
GMO's are mainly consumed as food additives which scientists, not Pollan, are assessing in my links.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#12
No, they're not.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#14
No need to be rude. The whole world (slightly exaggerated) apart from the US is wrong? Snort. nt	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#16
The whole world's scientific community is wrong?	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#17
I see you suffer from the same afflication as many of your compatriots	EvolveOrConvolve	Oct 2013	#5
Oh, please, it's a PRESS RELEASE backed by 57,000 ob-gyns + 7.000 reproductive medicine specialists.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#8
RECOMMENDED Press Statement, along with Pollan's brilliant 'Food Rules: An Eater's Manual.'	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#26
The OP already debunked all this BS.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#27
My god, more diarrhea	EvolveOrConvolve	Oct 2013	#28
A good look at GMO denialism.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#29
Organic Food Causes Autism and Diabetes	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#30
Check it out. DISCLAIMER: Recognized experts, although I have no familiarity with Robbins or event.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#31
Stop posting pseudoscience on this forum.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#32
Please see http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000-09-03/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-NEW-PROTEINS	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#33
More bad propaganda.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#36
Don't miss this.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#34
Ah, I see you've posted from the highly respected science magazine Elle	EvolveOrConvolve	Oct 2013	#35
FFS.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#37
Go figure. Your source cynically parses words or is woefully uninformed.	proverbialwisdom	Oct 2013	#38
I offered MULTIPLE SOURCES!!!!!	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#39
"This is not a hit piece on Michael Pollan" - I'd hate to read what the author does consider	muriel_volestrangler	Oct 2013	#40
A hit piece is usually not entirely accurate.	HuckleB	Oct 2013	#41
FYI, I just saw this.	proverbialwisdom	Nov 2013	#42
Both classic crank anti-GMO sources.	HuckleB	Nov 2013	#43
More reading for you here.	proverbialwisdom	Jan 2014	#47
And the pointless Gish Gallop continues.	HuckleB	Jan 2014	#50
If that's your understanding, may I suggest due diligence necessitates additional reading?	proverbialwisdom	Jan 2014	#49
Re-reading BS isn't going to change anything.	HuckleB	Jan 2014	#51
A Generous Offer to Dr. Huber -Turned Down	HuckleB	Nov 2013	#44
Pollan, Other Activists Fear Monger With Ignorance -- AGAIN!	HuckleB	Jan 2014	#52

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