2016 Postmortem

in_cog_ni_to

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33. The ACA

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:18 AM

Jan 2016

Last edited Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:57 AM - Edit history (1)

is nothing like I thought it would be. Insurance is still ridiculously expensive and policies are overly complicated.

IMO, the ACA SUCKS.

It's complicated. Expensive. No better, if not worse than previous insurance system. Both my plan and my son's plan are "THREE TIER" PLANS - so idiotic and unnecessary. Preferred Participating Provider (pays the most), Participating Provider (pays less) and non Participating Provider (pays nothing)...stupid and ridiculous policies.

And having to choose new policies every damn year is a PIMA. Our last policies were "discontinued" by our insurance company so I had to redo everything on 2 policies on the insurance company's web site. I hate it...absolutely HATE IT.

Doctors hate the ACA too, at least my husband's doctors do.

While it's great that preexisting illness is now covered, women's health screenings are covered and preventative healthcare is covered, there has to be a better way. Bernie has the better way! SINGLE-PAYER.

Your $1780 and our $900 a month - IS NOT BETTER than we had before. It's ridiculous that health insurance costs people more per month than nearly all other bills COMBINED! It's WRONG. JUST WRONG.

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Chris Hayes is talking to sanders about his health care plan now. [View all] riversedge Jan 2016 OP

Asking how paid for?? Asked Sanders if that is his vision for how riversedge Jan 2016 #1

BOOM. it is a new tax riversedge Jan 2016 #2

It also eliminates insurance premiums, thus saving thousands of dollars per household. myrna minx Jan 2016 #3

Lots of folks are going to be extrememly disappointed when riversedge Jan 2016 #5

Never try. myrna minx Jan 2016 #7

They're going to be upset saving $5,000 a year, Fawke Em Jan 2016 #37

What don't you understand about not having to pay high premiums? Punkingal Jan 2016 #11

+1. It's the sort of talking point I'd expect from a Republican. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #12

Or a Hillary supporter in the primary. morningfog Jan 2016 #24

Right. elleng Jan 2016 #15

I don't believe the "new premium" will be that much lower... 25 for single (what I pay now) ... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #28

I doubt if you want to hear more. Punkingal Jan 2016 #30

I do, if his proposal is doable by a substantial amount that can get past a uponit7771 Jan 2016 #32

A. A payroll tax by definition includes employers (like Medicare does not) Fawke Em Jan 2016 #38

It's going to be a hell of a lot less than insurance premiums cost. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #13

My husband and I, being near 60, pay $1780.00 a month. For barebones Kaiser. Luminous Animal Jan 2016 #22

The ACA in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #33

Hillary dems: taxes BAD. Gosh, sounds familiar.. cali Jan 2016 #14

Do you understand what the difference is between a National Health Care system which every other sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #17

Will we have a national health system? Or state by state? Agschmid Jan 2016 #20

We NEED a National HC system. And the way to get it is to fight for it. A majority of sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #34

The states manage Medicare/Medicaid now. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #39

The states manage Medicaid not sure about Medicare. Agschmid Jan 2016 #45

Sanders is good at diagnosing problems still really has little specifics riversedge Jan 2016 #4

In the example he used LeatherSofa Jan 2016 #19

He was talking about a hypothetical employer. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #25

Howard Dean coming up next riversedge Jan 2016 #6

A visionary man VS a pragmatic women who gets things done! this is how Dean riversedge Jan 2016 #8

In this case, "pragmatic" means a woman who is owned by the insurance and Big Pharma companies. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #40

I wasn't able to watch.. one_voice Jan 2016 #9

Bernie has always said dental should be part of overall healthcare, im sure it will be litlbilly Jan 2016 #10

Didn't go into those details, elleng Jan 2016 #16

I read the bill catnhatnh Jan 2016 #31

Senate Bill 1782 Fawke Em Jan 2016 #41

Dental and vision would be great...afterall they are parts of the body!! nt artislife Jan 2016 #29

Probably the same way I pay for my medicare I am on. I pay about $320 a month out of my LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #18

What if? LeatherSofa Jan 2016 #21

That would leave me about $5,000 so I guess I would have to kill myself to come out of it. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #23

Please refer to my response to your post above. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #26

Okay. Thx. n/m LeatherSofa Jan 2016 #27

But it won't. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #42

If Bernie could not convince the Senate to pass a public option to the ACA... Yavin4 Jan 2016 #35

+1, I've never thought Sanders was the leader he's chided others for not being. VT couldn't get sing uponit7771 Jan 2016 #36

Bernie is a US Senator Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #44

He could be dog catcher, this is America... Most of the top leaders from the founding weren't people uponit7771 Jan 2016 #46

In 2008, Bernie was a relatively new Senator Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #43