2016 Postmortem

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77. any attempt to move to single payer has got to start with cost controls

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:09 PM

Jan 2016

no one state will be able to do that...it will take a national plan

medicare for all would seem the simplest way to go since all that is in place

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Howard Dean, Now Employed by Health-Care Lobby Firm, Opposes Bernie Sanders on Single-Payer [View all] marmar Jan 2016 OP

Well I think a lot of people knew it was mmonk Jan 2016 #1

Well well Howard Dean..... nc4bo Jan 2016 #2

Howard sold his soul. Universal health care "might result in “chaos”, you mean like the ACA rhett o rick Jan 2016 #71

It's very disappointing. We, The People are nothing but nc4bo Jan 2016 #72

K AND R... No Surprise HERE! Dean is as phony as Hillary Is... CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #93

Thanks for this. boobooday Jan 2016 #3

Et tu, Brute? n/t ejbr Jan 2016 #4

! oh and great sig line! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #16

Disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful. SamKnause Jan 2016 #5

the old politics is the Star Wars prequels, the new the sequels MisterP Jan 2016 #6

Welcome to the dark side... MoonchildCA Jan 2016 #9

Yes, wellllcommme!!!!! LongTomH Jan 2016 #32

Dean is just another sell out. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #7

Very disappointing, I now understand his endorsement of Hillary. Autumn Jan 2016 #8

amazing how all the pieces fit together restorefreedom Jan 2016 #17

Dean Praised Single Payer in 2009 & Michael Moore's film "SICKO" was Targeted by Industry KoKo Jan 2016 #10

He can go suck turds FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #11

+1.nt Snotcicles Jan 2016 #12

I dunno... MynameisBlarney Jan 2016 #18

I agree though I never understood why so many thought Dean ever was a lefty. nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #36

Perspective of the times Scootaloo Jan 2016 #81

i used to be a deaniac. boy was i a sucker. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #21

He has Changed Big Time. Duppers Jan 2016 #39

yup. he could have channeled his angst into positive rebellion against the system restorefreedom Jan 2016 #55

Howard the Sellout. 99Forever Jan 2016 #13

It takes massive morals, like Bernie, to stay clear of temptation. Gregorian Jan 2016 #14

Amen! appalachiablue Jan 2016 #40

That is what makes this oportunity that we have with Bernie so precious and important. Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #58

Yes dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #87

Wow...I never would have expected this from Howard Dean. MynameisBlarney Jan 2016 #15

Ah. Nyan Jan 2016 #19

No disclosure that he works for the Lobby before the interview either. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #20

hayes is slipping restorefreedom Jan 2016 #23

Agree. He used to be great. Now, not so much. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #24

very sad to watch. i hope he reclaims his integrity and gets out of there. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #26

Hayes is not slipping Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #38

I'm pretty sure he knows that's how he keeps his job at MSNBC. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #44

it appears so. but he used to be even handed restorefreedom Jan 2016 #48

then i guess he slipped. or was never"there" at all, perhaps. at one time i thought he was ok nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #106

I recall the first time Steve Kornacki was on with Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #104

what happened to Howard??? navarth Jan 2016 #22

Howard Dean used to be a DU Saint Politicub Jan 2016 #25

how about against basic honesty and integrity? restorefreedom Jan 2016 #30

No Howard placed himself under the bus by his duplicitous actions.... Armstead Jan 2016 #31

Woe to anyone who turns out to be a two-faced fraud.... marmar Jan 2016 #33

Here is his page... xocet Jan 2016 #49

Here is Howard's email there, also here is Newt's page on that site dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #88

+1 stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #62

The thing about that is Dean is the same now as he was back then JI7 Jan 2016 #73

Howard sold his soul for pieces of gold. If you call honesty in politics "Sanders orthodoxy" rhett o rick Jan 2016 #74

You don't understand the notion of "conflict of interest," I take it? Scootaloo Jan 2016 #82

Howard used to be in favor of single payer awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #90

Yep old howard Faux pas Jan 2016 #27

There's a Bernie storm brewing Howard.... raindaddy Jan 2016 #28

"...comes as he has settled into a corporate lobbying career." SoapBox Jan 2016 #29

. Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #34

lol! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #50

So, Dr. Dean... gregcrawford Jan 2016 #35

I believe Cyndi said it best ... historylovr Jan 2016 #37

This is just appalling - literally contemptible bread_and_roses Jan 2016 #41

Everyone who doesn't embrace Sanders is either a sell-out or is afraid of him. Hmm... Orrex Jan 2016 #42

Sorry, but Dean is clearly a fraud and a sellout in this case. marmar Jan 2016 #43

has nothing to do with embracing Sanders rurallib Jan 2016 #51

You're aware that that's an ad hominem, right? Orrex Jan 2016 #59

It's only impossible if you look at everything in a moral view mythology Jan 2016 #68

Not when there is overwhelming evidence that points to greed. Kermitt Gribble Jan 2016 #69

Since the OP specifically mentioned Sanders, Orrex Jan 2016 #75

??? dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #89

No but when you get a cushy job with lobbyists for businesses against public halthcare... Armstead Jan 2016 #70

Wow. berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #45

Kick azmom Jan 2016 #46

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #47

Yes, it seems Dean has sold out & has amplified Republican talking point elmac Jan 2016 #52

Another fucking sell-out. With "friends" like these... arcane1 Jan 2016 #53

Looks like Gov. Howard Dean is killing poor people in return for a healthcare NCjack Jan 2016 #54

Boooooo! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #56

Thanks. MSNBC should provide full disclosure as should all "news" services. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #57

...! Good Point! KoKo Jan 2016 #60

He should not be used on MSNBC any longer as a Democratic expert redstatebluegirl Jan 2016 #61

Howard should change his name to Judas Don Draper Jan 2016 #63

Disagreeing with you is not betraying you CreekDog Feb 2016 #100

nice segment rtracey Jan 2016 #64

any attempt to move to single payer has got to start with cost controls questionseverything Jan 2016 #77

K&R abelenkpe Jan 2016 #65

They call it "Industry Capture" - Dean has sold out and is no longer credible. Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #66

This is what transparency is for Babel_17 Jan 2016 #67

I knew this about him, that's why I had fun beating his ass in 2004! Howard the turdway shill. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #76

Intercept shilling again... Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #78

Like Brock's "Correct the Record"? Using that bullshit as a source? djean111 Feb 2016 #105

I'm not even voting for Hillary, genius Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #107

Pathetic if you think you made me feel bad, really. Sarcasm just sorta rolls off. djean111 Feb 2016 #108

Always think Cui Bono sonofspy777 Jan 2016 #79

Dean has joined the "anything for a buck" brigade. Sad. Vinca Jan 2016 #80

Sold us out for 30 pieces of Silver LittleBlue Jan 2016 #83

Really sorry to learn this... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Jan 2016 #84

So long Howard, I thought I knew you merkins Jan 2016 #85

Just a quick reminder, boys and girls Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #86

So Howard Dean really isn't a health care lobbyist now? marmar Jan 2016 #92

I just want folks to be aware when an agenda is in play... Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #97

Makes me sick grahamhgreen Jan 2016 #91

So very disappointing that Howard Dean sold his soul. emsimon33 Jan 2016 #94

Sad and pathetic Bernblu Jan 2016 #95

the pigs bought him olddots Jan 2016 #96

Does he think our system now ISN'T chaos? n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #98

Dean responds: Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #99

I've said Dr. Dean's a centrist, except for health. There goes that exception. merrily Feb 2016 #101

hate to tell you I told you so but I told you so olddots Feb 2016 #102

Too many people's souls have fallen into the depths desmiller Feb 2016 #103