2016 Postmortem

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183. It does help that Sanders has been keeping

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Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:51 PM

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his crazier dudebro fanatics in check, since they were hurting him more than they were helping him...

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CNN�s Van Jones: Democratic Base in �Full-on Rebellion� Against Hillary Clinton [View all] cali Jan 2016 OP

No its not uponit7771 Jan 2016 #1

Lol. Evidence says you are wrong. cali Jan 2016 #2

Moveon != whole "dem base" uponit7771 Jan 2016 #3

it is a reasonable sampling, along with union members.... Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #7

Nopers, 85% of democrats have favorable opinion of HRC. More HRC hatred from Jones uponit7771 Jan 2016 #11

Link? Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #13

Sorry, its 84% (link, along with reality outside of DU:S bubble, inside) uponit7771 Jan 2016 #14

That's 84% for BILL; Hill is 49%UNFAVORABLE; 48% favorable Divernan Jan 2016 #16

Of that 84-85% of Dems nationally for Hill... SoapBox Jan 2016 #24

oh god. Disproving one poll by using another. what a pathetic thing. They don't even see roguevalley Jan 2016 #48

Didn't ask for mine either. Nor anyone in my circle of family or friends some of whom still have sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #209

Isn't it funny passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #50

Don't forget all the union members who voted to endorse him. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #60

Che with a Bernie shirt... madaboutharry Jan 2016 #151

Hillary fans: "It's a flesh wound" Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #101

Tis is NOT a scratch of Bern Victims: "... Hillary Clinton more liked..." (inside link) uponit7771 Jan 2016 #119

your own link says opposite padfun Jan 2016 #160

Please quote the link stating opposite of what I posted... tia uponit7771 Jan 2016 #180

lol n/t tazkcmo Jan 2016 #102

I figure it's only a matter of time before a new poll shows Hillary Clinton's Gene Debs Jan 2016 #20

BWAHAHAHA! Good one, Gene Debs. Love the moniker by the way and welcome aboard the Primary roguevalley Jan 2016 #49

Ha ha! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #73

+1 appalachiablue Jan 2016 #112

Or at 84% liked? uponit7771 Jan 2016 #120

48% please fix your error Lordquinton Jan 2016 #127

Nope it's in the middle of the page...58% favorable for Sanders.. 84% for hrc uponit7771 Jan 2016 #181

Nope, you are wrong, 100% wrong in fact. Lordquinton Jan 2016 #210

OMG... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #211

It does say that in the article Lordquinton Jan 2016 #212

Even reading the article the numbers are RIGHT THERE 84% for HRC 58% for SBS uponit7771 Jan 2016 #213

How did they get that from the poll? Lordquinton Jan 2016 #215

Have you looked at your own link? padfun Jan 2016 #162

Yeap, in the middle of the page... 85% of dems favorable towards HRC 58% Favorable towards SBS uponit7771 Jan 2016 #214

Is that you Chelsea? Getting your facts wrong again? Ichingcarpenter Jan 2016 #26

85 %? link? PatrynXX Jan 2016 #38

Yeap, its 84% uponit7771 Jan 2016 #121

48%, please fix the error Lordquinton Jan 2016 #128

New polls says: Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #80

Total Bloviation Without a Scintilla Of Empirical Validation To Be Found Anywhere To Substantiate! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #107

Link posted in this thread multiple times (link inside) uponit7771 Jan 2016 #122

And described wrongly every time caraher Jan 2016 #152

Funny how all progressives don't favor HRC. And yet some try to say she is progressive. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #110

HRC more liked among dems nationaly uponit7771 Jan 2016 #123

Clinton is favored by the big money. That should be a clue. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #165

84% of dems are big money? uponit7771 Jan 2016 #178

Big Money favors Clinton. Ironically Citizens United is helping her. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #179

Right. Since African Americans, Latinos, and older people aren't part of the base. pnwmom Jan 2016 #31

Are you saying they are not in Moveon.org or are union members? Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #51

It's my opinion that all those groups comprise much greater proportions pnwmom Jan 2016 #63

Actually, no CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #35

I said "members" and pointed out the 5-0 endorsements from union member votes. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #47

It's typical for her to court the gatekeepers and figure heads without addressing the needs of GoneFishin Jan 2016 #94

No, it isn't. Beacool Jan 2016 #72

I said "Along with the union members". Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #74

Um, the left wing of the Democratic party? Lordquinton Jan 2016 #129

Aren't Democrats... LovingA2andMI Jan 2016 #135

Question for you? INdemo Jan 2016 #155

Where in the OP does anyone say move-on represents the whole dem base? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #45

I am in Dem base, and think Sanders not qualified to be President: Like many Dem's lewebley3 Jan 2016 #22

If Sanders is not qualified TheFarseer Jan 2016 #46

Van Jones didn't resign in disgrace. Obama threw him under the bus to appease the fuckers. roguevalley Jan 2016 #52

Thank you, mine too! nt haikugal Jan 2016 #61

One of my heroes too! Speaking truth to power and Akamai Jan 2016 #97

Van Jones was the best dude in the Obama Administration. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #137

Van Jones believes Republicans are d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #167

You got that right Sanders was in congress forever accomplishing nothing lewebley3 Jan 2016 #173

Interesting.... PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #193

Sanders is not abstaining from negative campaigning: He is just hot air lewebley3 Jan 2016 #194

Why was Van Jones pushed out of the White House? And I'd like a TRUE answer. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #53

Oh, it's you! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #104

Lol! BeanMusical Jan 2016 #131

LOL!! pangaia Jan 2016 #201

He was asked to resign because he was too progressive for the Obama administration that favored rhett o rick Jan 2016 #111

Nice try he had to leave because he did bad job for Obama lewebley3 Jan 2016 #169

You are exactly correct. He represented the People and the Obama admin did not like that. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #177

Van Jones can't resign in disgrace from the Obama Administration. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #116

Van Jones had to resign from the Obama Administration in disgrace? Enthusiast Jan 2016 #134

No Not At All.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2016 #136

Jones resigned himself from the third way, Centerist, New Democrat, right of 2008 Campaign Promises. DhhD Jan 2016 #154

He had to leave Obama or Obama was going to kick him out lewebley3 Jan 2016 #168

Just in case you do not know it, since you used future tense rather than past tense, Bohunk68 Jan 2016 #157

Obama told to him get out! Thanks for the correction lewebley3 Jan 2016 #175

The poster you are responding to didn't have an opportunity to get much posted because they rhett o rick Jan 2016 #109

Bwahahaha! Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #6

Nopers, 85% of democrats have favorable opinion of HRC... facts matter uponit7771 Jan 2016 #12

Facts matter, but you can't get them right. 85% refers to BILL CLINTON. Facts matter. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #18

Yes,facts matter Go Vols Jan 2016 #36

so ... you're using a POLL to disprove another POLL because SOMEHOW YOUR POLL roguevalley Jan 2016 #54

Yes that's it, Go Vols Jan 2016 #58

This is false, its halfway down the page... text inside uponit7771 Jan 2016 #124

Agreed: I think the Sanders is starting running a very negative campaign lewebley3 Jan 2016 #23

Oh !! pangaia Jan 2016 #32

up against lying yeah that won't work. PatrynXX Jan 2016 #39

Sounds Like The PUMA's LovingA2andMI Jan 2016 #138

Is that you, Chelsea? nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #78

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cui bono Jan 2016 #90

I have come to the conclusion that the problem is your "thinking". Enthusiast Jan 2016 #139

Sander is turning out be talking out of two sides of his mouth lewebley3 Jan 2016 #172

Your thoroughly detailed and reasoned response convinced me. Nah! Just kidding. Gene Debs Jan 2016 #19

Link inside: Nationally Clinton is more liked uponit7771 Jan 2016 #125

So now you're talking about Bill? padfun Jan 2016 #163

Nope poll halfway down page is not related to bill uponit7771 Jan 2016 #189

All Is Well !!! Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #57

Oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up. nt Joe the Revelator Jan 2016 #92

That's a bit of an overstatement Nonhlanhla Jan 2016 #4

I keep hearing Clinton fans say that, but I'm not seeing that Fawke Em Jan 2016 #5

Same here in N.C. n/t aesop55 Jan 2016 #44

Welcome to DU! nt stillwaiting Jan 2016 #81

Welcome to DU!! yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #108

Same here. OnionPatch Jan 2016 #71

Exactly. Bernie has universal appeal. And for good reason. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #141

That's my experience too. Sanders volunteers seem to be grandparents and-- eridani Jan 2016 #143

I am a white female/65/midwest--& a strong Sanders supporter. nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #176

Why the Nation's Nurses are Supporting Bernie Sanders for President Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #9

I'm an old lady feminist from the way back who is a berner and so are a number of young women roguevalley Jan 2016 #56

This old lady feminist up here in the boonies Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #83

BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! roguevalley Jan 2016 #87

This hillbilly raised in the Catskills boonies agrees completely Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #103

Never saw or heard of hillbilly and Catskills.That's real cool. appalachiablue Jan 2016 #114

We have hillbillies, woodchucks and rednecks in denial in the Catskills, especially northern Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #126

A pretty area I've seen a little of around the Hudson River area when my brother and appalachiablue Jan 2016 #159

Wow. I played all those resorts in the summers when I was in HS and college-- pangaia Jan 2016 #202

I knew Mark Kutcher personal. He was a slime, just like his worthless kids I went to school with Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #204

Too COOL. pangaia Jan 2016 #206

Women 18-35 prefer Sanders by 20% over HRC (Rolling Stone) Divernan Jan 2016 #15

Agreed: Go Hillary: Just say no to Sanders socialism, lack of qualifications lewebley3 Jan 2016 #25

Aw, that�s adorable. dorkzilla Jan 2016 #27

Just truth: Sanders has never accomplished anything in Senate lewebley3 Jan 2016 #28

That�s been debunked so many times it�s mind-numbing it�s still being used dorkzilla Jan 2016 #29

I always think of that scene in Bulworth ms liberty Jan 2016 #43

I love that scene Lordquinton Jan 2016 #130

in fact I have tried that already a2liberal Jan 2016 #84

I�m sure we�ve all given it a whack at one point :) dorkzilla Jan 2016 #88

His odd phrasing and goofy sentence structure has convinced me he could only be tularetom Jan 2016 #144

Holy shit you�re right! dorkzilla Jan 2016 #146

Yoda! Yo-yo-yo-yo-yoda! Yo-yo-yo-yo-yoda! Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #200

Are you here for our entertainment? Enthusiast Jan 2016 #142

Just the truth: Go Hillary lewebley3 Jan 2016 #174

Truly. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #33

Cool Story Bro! Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #34

"never accomplished anything..." Lancero Jan 2016 #41

Quoting Nancy Reagan.. nice. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #59

Newsflash: among millennials, socialism is no longer a bogeyman word. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #82

Hey I�m 50 and it doesn�t work on me either dorkzilla Jan 2016 #89

I don't think we have ever properly thanked you for that gift, have we? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #91

LOL, you�re welcome! dorkzilla Jan 2016 #93

&0 and Bring It On! McKim Jan 2016 #98

Ah, the Socialism tripe again. blackspade Jan 2016 #105

Just Like The Campaign Is Recycling... LovingA2andMI Jan 2016 #140

Clinton is the candidate of rich white people judging by her bankster donations eridani Jan 2016 #148

Hillary is judged for work and dedication to the American people: not donors lewebley3 Jan 2016 #170

Honestly, I don't think she cares about me. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #196

She spent 30 years caring about the American people: You are very self center lewebley3 Jan 2016 #198

You mean like NAFTA, welfare defom and endin GlassSteagall? eridani Jan 2016 #207

A very small state? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #153

HIllary helped run the biggest country in the world US: and New York lewebley3 Jan 2016 #171

The exact same "small state" crap was used by Poppy in 1992 Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #184

If you think Sanders is even the same park as Clinton your crazy lewebley3 Jan 2016 #186

"your"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #187

You missed the point Hillary is quailed, experience, and loyal progressive Dem lewebley3 Jan 2016 #188

You're right, Sanders didn't accomplish things in the Senate like voting for the Iraq War. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #190

Sanders was in the Senate until 73 no bill or leadership for 30 years lewebley3 Jan 2016 #191

It'll be fine, chief. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #192

You have made that clear with your incessant comments. pangaia Jan 2016 #203

Neither of my parents are in the tank for Hillary. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #195

I'm sure the majority polled around the nation in favor of Hillary bigtree Jan 2016 #8

Jones was one of the first to mention Bernie and say he would win Iowa.. Punkingal Jan 2016 #10

let's get real Robbins Jan 2016 #17

Finally some common sense on this Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #66

Bill Clinton also carried only 43.0% of the vote Lordquinton Jan 2016 #133

60% of Democrats under 45 support Bernie. He is the future of our party. morningfog Jan 2016 #21

America's tired of the Clintons left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #30

I think some think electing Hillary will bring back the 90's Mnpaul Jan 2016 #164

There is a full-on rebellion within both major parties against their establishment houston16revival Jan 2016 #37

The Clintons are FULL ON Lying now Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #40

If anyone wants a reminder of why we shouldn't fight each other. Kentonio Jan 2016 #42

Liars who try to deceive the electorate are not my friends. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #67

I never used the word friends. Let's go with colleagues for now. Kentonio Jan 2016 #69

OK, that's fair. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #70

The Young Turks "It's Real" gordyfl Jan 2016 #55

enjoyed this immensely, thank you restorefreedom Jan 2016 #64

I think it's more like a rebellion against establishment Democrats. Skwmom Jan 2016 #62

We do not like the policies being forwarded by the establishment Democrats. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #147

A "rebellion"? Preferring a different candidate is now a rebellion? winter is coming Jan 2016 #65

No, He's running the DNC, though. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #95

I canvassed today, 45 doors. Agschmid Jan 2016 #68

Thank you. Beacool Jan 2016 #75

Sounds like little enthusiasm for your candidate. GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #77

Well considering only 15 people were home I think we are doing okay. Agschmid Jan 2016 #79

This whole Hillary Fail thing was so unnecessary matt819 Jan 2016 #76

Agree on the ISSUES???!!! bvar22 Jan 2016 #85

Huge +1! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #149

The Iraq War is Too Heavy a Baggage for Me! McKim Jan 2016 #99

I AM A REBEL!!! cui bono Jan 2016 #86

+1 mhatrw Jan 2016 #96

Hill the Shill Clinton needs to go the fuck away yesterday. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #100

We Don't Like Liars billhicks76 Jan 2016 #106

Heavens! You mean the little people won't do as they're told? HOW DARE THEY! Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #113

K&R nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #115

Van Jones VERY SHORT LIFE as an "Obama aide" underthematrix Jan 2016 #117

The Conservative Wing of our Party doesn't like Van Jones or any progressive as far rhett o rick Jan 2016 #166

Thank you for your comment underthematrix Jan 2016 #185

Using Chelsea to tell a lie has killed her credibility as a campaigner for Hillary Clinton. Todays_Illusion Jan 2016 #118

It sure didn't help. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #150

Kick and R BeanMusical Jan 2016 #132

drama youceyec Jan 2016 #145

It's Not a Rebellion fredamae Jan 2016 #156

I'm concerned it's a "southern" thing again zipplewrath Jan 2016 #158

Interesting perspective.... fredamae Jan 2016 #161

Psst...the DLC was formed because of the decade of darkness (aka the 80s) when Dems lost every Metric System Jan 2016 #197

That does not mean it was fredamae Jan 2016 #199

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #182

It does help that Sanders has been keeping Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #183

Rebellion PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #205

Bill Clinton did not actively contest Iowa in 1992 John Poet Jan 2016 #208