2016 Postmortem

Motown_Johnny

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18. No way this is a negative ad.

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:58 PM

Jan 2016

If this is negative, then what are Hillary's comments about Bernie's votes on gun control?

What are her lies about his single payer plan?

They see it all slipping away and are getting desperate.

This is not a negative ad!

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Chuckie Toad laughing out loud at Hillary's claim that Bernie ran a negative ad. [View all] Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 OP

I wonder if Larry Wilmore will do another skit tonight with the "intern" from the Clinton campaign. winter is coming Jan 2016 #1

I haven't seen it. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #4

If you are Mrs. Wall Street then it would appear -ve Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #36

Todd is paid by right coporation media: Hillary has turned him down often lewebley3 Jan 2016 #66

A negative ad is any ad that attacks an opponent Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #2

Doesn't even mention her name in the ad. Punkingal Jan 2016 #6

The implication in the ad is pretty clear IMO. He mentions "two visions" Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #8

Simply drawing contrast, not an attack. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #9

I think if he said that Lokijohn Jan 2016 #74

It would also be factual. eom Fawke Em Jan 2016 #96

If Hillary supporters are desperate and as nervous as everyone in Hillary's campaign INdemo Jan 2016 #29

An ad which says HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #32

Some might argue? Kall Jan 2016 #77

Is that untrue? About the millions from banks? Matariki Jan 2016 #47

Oh? Hillary's "vision" is so accurately described that you can easily tell? Scootaloo Jan 2016 #82

Well pointing out the truth about humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #84

So how would you characterize her position regarding Wall Street? libdem4life Jan 2016 #88

It just describes two visions shawn703 Jan 2016 #92

No, he says there are two visions. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #7

He's attacking Hillary's "vision" Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #10

Drawing contrast, not attacking. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #11

The ad implies she's in the pocket of big banks: Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #13

No way this is a negative ad. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #18

You can keep saying that it's not a negative ad Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #20

Then why is that claim being laughed at? You can keep saying it is, but it isn't. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #21

Chuckles Toad is laughing.... Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #25

Bernie supporters are using HIM as a support murielm99 Jan 2016 #44

They use the corporate-controlled MSM when it suits their objectives Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #46

Because even he is bailing on h. nt artislife Jan 2016 #63

Oh, my. None Bernie supporters are citing. chuckles. What a hoot. riversedge Jan 2016 #64

Just as you can keep saying the facts are 'negative' Matariki Jan 2016 #49

The ad goes after Hillary Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #53

Just keep repeating that. Someone might believe it Matariki Jan 2016 #54

Now you're making this about me. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #55

lol Matariki Jan 2016 #56

Hillary's gun ad is closely analogous. Is that negative? cali Jan 2016 #73

Because you present your opinion as a fact. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #94

I believe it is negative. Something Sanders said he would not do. riversedge Jan 2016 #65

Wow! That desperation spreads FAST! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #68

Did Clinton not take campaign money from banks? Matariki Jan 2016 #69

Laughable. It's about as mild as you can get. cali Jan 2016 #76

Because you're a supporter. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #98

Nope. Took a poll. 0% agree with you. Yes, it was an Internet poll. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #83

As a shaky Hillary supporter persuadable Jan 2016 #91

Nearly everyone is saying it's not a negative ad. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #97

Seems more like an awareness than a judgment. nt artislife Jan 2016 #24

Isn't she? Matariki Jan 2016 #59

So then the implication.... Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #60

You are nitpicking Matariki Jan 2016 #62

well if hc wasn't taking all that big bank money she wouldn't have to worry questionseverything Jan 2016 #86

No, Lokijohn Jan 2016 #95

She doesn't have a vision...she is a pragmatist. Ask Howard Dean. Punkingal Jan 2016 #12

+1 n/t Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #33

Here is the ad. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #14

It points out facts related to Hillary mindwalker_i Jan 2016 #50

Facts related to Hillary and others Mnpaul Jan 2016 #61

OMG - they're calling *that* negative? Matariki Jan 2016 #51

it's the "lively debate" she asked for tk2kewl Jan 2016 #15

By your definition, then... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #27

It's good to know you think Hillary's vision for the United States is wrong. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #57

Than Hillary's gun ad is negative. cali Jan 2016 #71

negative doesn't mean false dsc Jan 2016 #17

Anytime you draw contrast you are saying one is right and the other is wrong. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #19

Nuance is hard for them...lol artislife Jan 2016 #26

Not the same as an attack anyway bjobotts Jan 2016 #85

No, it's not. But think what you need to; it doesn't matter. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #42

NO. it compares their two positions. pangaia Jan 2016 #28

Lol and bullshit. He compares two approaches. cali Jan 2016 #48

A negative ad is anything that talks about Hillary factually mindwalker_i Jan 2016 #58

Stating a person's position is not an attack. bjobotts Jan 2016 #80

Saw it....they WERE laughing at her campaign. Amazing! Punkingal Jan 2016 #3

Telling the truth about her is a "negative" "attack" now, apparently. arcane1 Jan 2016 #5

How will Hillary handle an ad from a Republican if she melts down over Bernie's ads stillwaiting Jan 2016 #16

You want an attack ad? catnhatnh Jan 2016 #22

Asking you to fasten your seatbelt for landing ybbor Jan 2016 #72

Now they love the corporate media! Metric System Jan 2016 #23

No--- THEY ( WE/ME) still hate the corporate media. pangaia Jan 2016 #30

Toad is far right wing CorkySt.Clair Jan 2016 #31

So far it seems madokie Jan 2016 #34

I love when they call Bull Shit on Hillary's Campaign's Bull Shit. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #40

I thought the ad Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #35

So what was negative about it? Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #37

Her spokesperson was claiming that drawing contrast = attack. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #38

They are awfully sensitive all of a sudden! Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #41

The next person on the show said that spokesperson was "desperate". Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #43

There was nothing negative about it. The Clinton campaign must be planning on going winter is coming Jan 2016 #67

+1 I think you nailed it hueymahl Jan 2016 #90

Exactly my thinking. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #93

So ejbr Jan 2016 #39

I wish I could rec that. Thanks.. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #45

Yeah ejbr Jan 2016 #52

For Toad, it's more like two times a year. winter is coming Jan 2016 #70

You can even ignore him on this one... ejbr Jan 2016 #75

She is indeed predictable. SoapBox Jan 2016 #78

Does anyone have a link or show title. SamKnause Jan 2016 #79

Here's a list of her top donors Matariki Jan 2016 #81

To Hillary and her minions, anything that highlights her "say and do anything to get elected" Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #87

Hillary Anxious to Go Negative on Bernie gordyfl Jan 2016 #89

I wonder if that's why Chelsea lied about Sanders and single payer the other day. winter is coming Jan 2016 #99