2016 Postmortem

Nyan

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27. I thought so, too.

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:51 PM

Jan 2016

Trump had a great momemt there. It was a glimpse into how he could pull off a win in GE.
It has to be Bernie. Otherwise, Trump has a real chance against Hillary.

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Swiftboating Bernie. How it works. Why Hillary is going there [View all] cali Jan 2016 OP

Clinton tried this in Iowa in 2008--and she came in third CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #1

2008 all over again. earthside Jan 2016 #2

Bernie isn't Barack, but Hillary is still Hillary. eom Fawke Em Jan 2016 #23

THIS. Volaris Jan 2016 #31

I thought so, too. Nyan Jan 2016 #27

Hillary tends to overact when in this mode... maybe she hasn't learned anything HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #52

bull. She hasn't 'swiftboated' Sanders bigtree Jan 2016 #3

That's precisely what she is doing. cali Jan 2016 #4

"John Kerry as a dishonorable vet whom other vets disdained." emulatorloo Jan 2016 #6

"Bernie Sanders wants to dismantle Medicare" Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #8

That is a misrepresentation of policy as I said before. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #9

It is a flat out lie to prey on the fears of people Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #10

Agreed, it is a lie about his policy. Happily, It is backfiring on Clinton campaign. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #13

I agree w/Goblinmonger, mostly. The difference, if there is one, is a hair's-width. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #19

I see it as swiftboating. nt Enthusiast Jan 2016 #70

Tse swiftboat campaign was an attack on Kerry's integrity. The attacks on 1monster Jan 2016 #22

The degree differs, but the article is about a strategy Armstead Jan 2016 #49

No, that's precisely what she is ..TRYING.. to do. She is not very good at it and it backfires. Vincardog Jan 2016 #46

She is, actually. She's attacking him on his merits. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #7

Like Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #44

It is exactly what she is doing. pangaia Jan 2016 #15

Yes, actually, she is. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #24

swiftboating is attacking unfairly or with lies magical thyme Jan 2016 #32

+1000 ^That!^ John Poet Jan 2016 #55

She is swiftboating Bernie. That is precisely what she is doing. nt Enthusiast Jan 2016 #69

It does however reinforce the Clinton brand Doctor_J Jan 2016 #5

Good luck with that. She can't Swftboat the most Trustworthy, Honest, Authentic and ETHICAL in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #11

I gather Sanders policy proposals are never to be Skidmore Jan 2016 #12

Uh,, Clinton is not 'discussing the issues here." She is LYING !!! pangaia Jan 2016 #16

She is not. Skidmore Jan 2016 #18

It's your candidate who can't stand the scrutiny. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #26

"Bernie Sanders had launched a negative television advertisement against Hillary" demwing Jan 2016 #45

Bernie welcomes scrutiny. What part of his healthcare plan are unclear on? Vincardog Jan 2016 #47

Before this I didn't believe that, John Poet Jan 2016 #56

Welcome to the side of light. :>)) pangaia Jan 2016 #59

They can be questioned. But they ought to be questioned HONESTLY Armstead Jan 2016 #54

If that was a negative ad Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #14

^^^ this, exactly. magical thyme Jan 2016 #33

"Then I imagine HRH campaign would think a pillow fight is the equivalent of nuclear war." Lordquinton Jan 2016 #37

I don't see any comparison between what Clinton has been doing in her campaign and... George II Jan 2016 #17

You asked: So, in what way is how Clinton is campaigning similar to "swiftboating"? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #20

That's not the technical definition of "swift boating". JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #28

There's no "technical definition" of swiftboating. It's something that happened in 2004. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #29

Correct, well said. Nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #67

That doesn't really answer the question - HOW is she "lying" in order to deceive...etc.? George II Jan 2016 #36

We've been specifically talking for 2 days about how she is lying. Where have you been? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #39

This thread was started about 3 hours ago, not two days ago. George II Jan 2016 #40

I do believe I already told you we have lots of specific examples of Clinton's lies DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #41

You hinted at it here, but this thread doesn't have any, nor does the OP. George II Jan 2016 #42

Search for "Clinton liar" on DU and you'll see about 93 threads. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #43

Oh, did someone say something negative about Mr Pie in the Sky? leftofcool Jan 2016 #63

You're right. JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #48

She is maligning his integrity AND LYing about his plans at the same time Armstead Jan 2016 #57

Hillary's integrity is non existent. azmom Jan 2016 #21

Bernie is far from perfect, but next to Hillary he is a beacon of truth and honesty. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #38

That's fine, but Bernie's strong suit isn't his integrity... JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #25

His strong suit IS his integrity. Ask any of his supporters. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #30

Clinton isn't attacking his integrity. JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #50

You have not been listening to him then Armstead Jan 2016 #60

Really? "Remember that Obamacare began as Medicare for all" dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #65

when repubs say they don't agree with him, but they respect him enough in some cases to vote for him magical thyme Jan 2016 #34

Exactly right. Attacking an opponent on his strength is the essence of swiftboating. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #35

"swiftboating" whow. that is beyond the pale. riversedge Jan 2016 #51

I am starting to sincerely worry that if Hillary is the nominee, many MANY randys1 Jan 2016 #53

If this is how Hillary is going to run her campaign, John Poet Jan 2016 #58

Hard to get over it, eh. GOP will kill Women, destroy the environment, stop minorities randys1 Jan 2016 #62

No I am pretty confident most will reluctantly support her in the GE because.... Armstead Jan 2016 #61

I'm sure Bernie has larger Swiftboats that will sink Hillary's Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #64

Bernie will simply never do that. cali Jan 2016 #71

Thanks, absolutely true and it needs to be said often dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #66

Hillary is just what I thought she was. nt Enthusiast Jan 2016 #68